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Old 03-07-2008, 09:12 AM   #1
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Hi folks,

As she gets older, I'm more and more convinced that Nellie is not actually a pure bred Patterdale Terrier after all! It doesn't matter one iota to me, she's a pet and is adored regardless of her ancestry, but I'd be interested in what you think.

Most people here in the UK - where the breed is not officially recognised as you know - recognise her as a Patterdale if they've seen one before. But the un-initiated often ask me if she is a Scottie cross (probably due to her big ears and tufty eyebrows/moustache).

A common Patterdale cross is the Patterland, i.e Patterdale X Lakeland, and having just looked it up, the picture looks remarkably similar to Nellie's Dad! I saw both of her parents when I collected her, and the breeder told me they were both pure Patterdales. They looked like it to me, but I'm no expert!

Here are some pics, from 6 weeks to 6 months....what do you think, in tandem with her pic in my avatar?

Unfortunately I don't seem to have one which shows her massive ears being upright, but these days they are more up and pointy than folded over.

I reckon that her Dad was actually a Patterland.......

EDIT I've just realised that the pictures aren't really terribly helpful. She is now 7 months, and her ears remain mostly upright, and her body hasn't filled out to the traditional stocky Patterdale appearance at all (yet)....she's quite rangy and long legged, although she is deep through the chest. I guess its adolescence?

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Old 03-07-2008, 01:43 PM   #2
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It is hard to say until they are fully grown, although that wiry hair doesn't look 100 % Patterdale to me either!
But she is very cute!
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I have no clue's on patterdales and such BUT I love her bearded picture.. seriously.. she looks like a little griff dog..
SO CUTE!!
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http://www.gotpetsonline.com/picture...dale-terriers/

I do not know anything about the Patterdale but, here are some pictures with many different looks of the breed.

You sure have a cute little puppy, no matter pure or mix.
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Looks like a Patterdale Terrier to me but you are right about some being crossed. As far as the coat most of my friends have the smooth Patterdale but some can have the wire coat. It really depends on the lines and the dogs involved.
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looks like a wire haired patterdale to me.

A book i looked at resently about the breed, it pictures where about 90% wire hairs, I think the smooth coat is only a resent defelopment.

I love Patterdales intelligent happy little terriers


EDIT: Just wondering if she is 7 months old, and your in the UK, why is she docked.
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Wow, thanks for that link Elaine......there are obviously dozens more varieties of the breed than I thought, at least 3 of those pics look just like her! She's got a bit more growing to do, maybe her ears are growing faster than the rest of her. I'll try to get a more up to date pic today when we go out for a walk shortly.

Re her being docked.......I confess I have no idea why the pups were all docked, although they were born in a hunt kennel environment in Cambridgeshire where other Patterdales were being worked amongst a full pack of hounds - so perhaps the vet did it as a matter of routine. Its likely that the breeder thought a good number of the pups would go to working homes locally.

We live much further South where Patterdales are rather like gold dust, so I had to search quite hard to find one - when we found her, I was so excited that I didn't stop to consider whether I disagreed with docking enough not to buy her. But given a choice I would have preferred her to have kept her tail!

In hindsight we rushed into buying a puppy much too quickly. She was to be my first dog, she was my birthday present and I was dizzy with excitement! She was too young to leave her mum really at 6 weeks, although the breeder insisted it was fine, and looking back even though I saw both of her parents and they had a giant outdoor kennel with a cosy heated bed, it was pretty apprent that the breeder had mated her's and her husbands dogs just to make a bit of extra cash. She didn't seem to care where they were going or if she should hold onto them for a couple more weeks, she just wanted rid of them.

Sad but true.....if we ever buy another puppy I'll do things differently, but for now we have a very fit, very healthy pup, she's everything we wanted and a million times more!

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if she came from a hunt kennel that will be why. I not up on what people have to provide a vet to prove they will be going to working homes. But that does'nt matter now, I was making shore she was'nt illgaly docked by her breeder.

Docking working dog is for the best, if you ever seen the damage done to undocked working dogs tails your understand why I say that.

anyway Docked or not she is lovely.
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