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Old 02-13-2008, 08:47 PM   #1
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I was browsing the AKC legislative alerts page and found this:

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On Tuesday, February 12 Virginia House Bill 538 passed the House of Delegates and was sent to the Senate. The bill seeks to:
Define commercial breeders as persons who maintain 30 or more unsterilized adult females for commercial breeding;
Limit commercial breeders to maintaining no more than 50 adult dogs at one time;
Restrict the breeding age of females to between 18 months and 8 years;
Require commercial breeders to cooperate with inspections by animal control officers; and
Mandate commercial breeders to keep records of animal sales, purchases, breeding history, and veterinary care.

The American Kennel Club opposes the concept of breeding permits, breeding bans, or mandatory spay/neuter of purebred dogs. Instead, we support reasonable and enforceable laws that protect the welfare and health of purebred dogs and do not restrict the rights of breeders and owners who take their responsibilities seriously.
http://www.akc.org/news/index.cfm?article_id=3432

Am I reading this wrong, or does it sound like the AKC is opposing this bill?
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Old 02-13-2008, 09:30 PM   #2
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You're reading it right!

AKC opposes any form of legislation that could also restrict responsible breeders and pet owners. Their stand on the situation indicates that they're either blind to the tragedy of puppy mills or aren't willing to give up the revenue they provide.

That's not the whole story though. AKC has suspended and denied registration privileges to a record number of puppy mills in recent years. But it still isn't enough as far as the dogs in those puppy mills are concerned! Especially when they'll also suspend an individuals privileges for unsportsmanlike conduct at a licensed or sanctioned event. I'd much rather see more suspensions for animal cruelty than I would for cussing out a judge or having a bottle of beer on the grounds.

I'm hoping that with more pet registries becoming available; in time the puppy mills and BYB will stop registering with AKC to avoid their kennel inspections and possibility of suspensions. That won't help the dogs in puppy mills, but it will serve to separate AKC from their association with mass produced dogs. That was never their original intention!

AKC also opposes BSL and mandatory spay and neuter!
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Old 02-13-2008, 10:21 PM   #3
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That is right, AKC or any registry is all about money. it now costs me $50.00 to register an import along with Foreign application filled out, two photos, etc. DNA went from $40 to $50.00 also.

I am checked twice a year not having over fifty dogs on property, license is $75.00 a year, state dog enforcer comes checks all records of dogs, pups that have come or left and where to. Inspects kennels, water, dishes and dogs and how they are kept. It matters to him, but AKC does not care.

If they would get more tough on papers alot would drop out if they started to check parents and inbreeding, etc. They do not care at all.!??? I think in fact they might even help feed puppy mills, poor breeding, yet try to get papers on a foreign dog without a check and photos, foreign application filled out properly along with passport, NOT. They notify right away if one little thing if wrong and they know how long I have done this no problem, only once I got a letter I forgot to fill out proper amount on my check. Like two dollars less amount sent?????
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Applesmom has it right. The AKC is quite adament that breeders rights not be tampered with. Their stand is that if current laws are enforced, then the irresponsible breeders will be hurt. They also feel, and I think they have a point here, that irresponsible breeders won't obey any laws and will breed illegally, but resonsible breeders will be the ones paying fees, etc. I can see their point. After all an irresponsible breeder has little to loose in getting caught so why pay fees, etc? And their chances of getting caught with a litter of pups indoors is exceedingly slim. Whereas a responsible breeder has a ton to loose by getting caught. They can loose the ability to breed their lines that they've worked so hard to create, so they will pay the fees.

That doesn't mean I'm against mandatory spay/neuter. Frankly I am, and usually don't agree with the AKC on many of the bills. But I can see the AKC's point on some of the less well written laws.
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BTW, I disagree that the AKC is ALL about money. I've been too involved with the organization to say that. I see much good that they try to do. They aren't perfect, but they aren't ALL about money and do what they can with very limited staff to stop puppy mills, etc.
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BTW maybe not about money but for me it sure has been. I am paying alot to register pups, imports, DNA. I do not mind however, but I see the rising prices of litters, importations, etc.

It does not seem fair for members to have to pay, but If I knew it was helping to stop puppy mill breeders then I would pay most anything then.
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I will say this...I do feel the AKC used to be more about money than they are now. And, of course, they do need money to run, so there's no doubt it DOES play a part. I just see a lot more to them than that now. It's a common complaint I hear.
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What AKC is and what the general public thinks it is are two completely different things.

AKC is a registry primarily dedicated to the sport and promotion of carefully bred, pure bred dogs. Every licensed event is attended by an AKC representative who is there to be sure all rules are adhered to, the dogs are safe and to listen to suggestions from the fanciers. They're also there to listen to complaints and resolve possible disputes. These guys spend every weekend away from their families, often in far less than ideal conditions. Hundred of these events are held every weekend, 50 weeks a year.

Here's just one example of what these reps can and do accomplish at the expense of AKC.

When the AKC Hunting Dog Tests for Pointing Breeds was just a glimmer of an idea; I mentioned to our rep at a field trial that I was trying to convince our breed club members to hold the first test in the Southwest.

Less than two weeks later, the president of AKC, the field events coordinator, several field reps, the president of the National breed club and our local breed club board held an all day meeting at a local resort and we were able to work out the details.

On the first weekend of the first test and every test that has followed since then, the reps are still are there to see what they can do to make the events even better for the promotion of pure bred dogs!

At that time, record keeping fees assessed by AKC were a grand total of fifty cents a dog per event! With the entries for our first tests amounting to 40 dogs that's hardly a money making proposition for them.

Yet the various types of performance tests now offered by AKC have been invaluable in maintaining the desired abilities in pure bred dogs.

IMO The purebred dog in America would have diminished to mediocrity and many would have vanished completely without the dedication backing and hard work of AKC!

They're far from perfect but so is every other organization that is run by humans!

AKC was never intended to register puppy mill dogs. But unless they completely re-write their rules for registration they can't turn them away. If they did, IMO it would be as controversial as breed specific legislation!
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Good post, AM. I agree, too. The AKC isn't perfect, but with what they have, I think they try to do as best they can.
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