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Old 07-22-2007, 01:29 PM   #1
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Cool Personality related to coat type and color?

The first time I read something like this I decided it must be someone's imagination. . But I keep seeing it and seeing it and now that I have seen it here:

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The latest study, recently published in Applied Animal Behavior Science, determined that golden/red English cocker spaniels exhibit the most dominant and aggressive behavior. Black dogs in this breed were found to be the second most aggressive, while particolor (white with patches of color) were discovered to be more mild-mannered.
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2006/1...tegory=animals
I've decided there must be something to it.
You can tell a dog's personality by the color or type of coat!

Also, yellow Labs are the least aggressive and chocolate labs are the most aggressive.

Smooth Doxies are mellow, wiry Doxies are feisty, and long-haired ones are sensitive.
http://www.pcpups.com/dachshund_%20coat%20types.htm

After I started seeing the word "Tortitude" on cat forums to describe the personality of Tortoiseshells I came to the conclusion that maybe where there is smoke, there is fire.

Any opinions on this?
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Old 07-22-2007, 01:44 PM   #2
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I have read that about Red cocker's too.. they call it cocker rage, every red cocker i have met or trained has been fine.. no problems. i own a black cocker & know plety of them too which again, no problems there either.. my parti-color cocker is also fne..

where do they get this information from lol??

Yes! my yellow lab is very very wildly friendly with everything...
my chocolate does show signs that he's willing to bite or attach another dog if pushed.. he's a dominant castracted male...
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Hmm..well, Floyd is a golden Cocker Spaniel and he's not dominant at all.
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I wouldn't put too much stock in it since we don't know where the dogs came from, what their parents were like or the environment they were raised in.

Until more proof is available, I'll stick to my original idea that a dog's temperament is a product of genetics, (which may or may not actually fit into this theory) environment, socialization and training.

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Although they both think there is "some truth to the recent findings," Sisson believes a dog's genetic lineage, going back many generations, is a better indicator of temperament than color.
If the color theory were true, why would black labs be second on the list of dogs dumped in shelters, rather than chocolates?
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If the color theory were true, why would black labs be second on the list of dogs dumped in shelters, rather than chocolates?
IF you believe the color theory (and I'm not saying I do, I am not sure yet) then there would still be two different things going on.

One is the possible real correlation between some "personality gene" and a color gene-not a causal relationship but simply a correlation. The other is the public's perception. Those are not necessarily going to be the same.
The general public does seem to have a fear of "BBDs" (big black dogs) which is why a certain type of dog tends to stay in a shelter regardless of its personality.


At least that is my guess on this one. I have no data to back it up so this is just speculation on my part.
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I really don't know that much about the color theory either.

What I do know is that with every litter I bred, (hardly enough to be scientific) the basic overall temperament of the pups was completely predictable based on the temperament of the parents.

Of course they each had individual personalities, but the desired soundness of temperament was evident in every one. They were also all raised in the same environment which I'm sure was a contributing factor!

Color wise I never thought to compare personalities. Though there aren't the color variations there are in other breeds. They're either white and liver, liver and white, or solid liver.

Guess I'll keep an open mind until more research proves or disproves the theory. In the meanwhile many novice lab enthusiasts swear by this theory while the old timers remain sceptical!
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I don't have a strong opinion on this one. However, I can tell you that anybody who has had many Torties know all about that Tortitude & I've seen it thousands of times in the show ring.

In my breed of cats, I particularly prefer the Blue Point males. My best friend prefers Seal Point females (which are generally my least favorite sex/color). So, I officially buy into the story of color as respects cats.

Cats are very different from dogs in the the way of personality & training though & I think rearing, environment, socialization, handling and especially owner have more influence on dogs. JMHO — no stats, documentation, or even personal experience to back that up.
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The first time I read something like this I decided it must be someone's imagination. . But I keep seeing it and seeing it and now that I have seen it here:


http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2006/1...tegory=animals
I've decided there must be something to it.
You can tell a dog's personality by the color or type of coat!

Also, yellow Labs are the least aggressive and chocolate labs are the most aggressive.

Smooth Doxies are mellow, wiry Doxies are feisty, and long-haired ones are sensitive.
http://www.pcpups.com/dachshund_%20coat%20types.htm

After I started seeing the word "Tortitude" on cat forums to describe the personality of Tortoiseshells I came to the conclusion that maybe where there is smoke, there is fire.

Any opinions on this?










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Interesting topic. I think it would be possible for rage syndrome for example to show up in a certain colour of cockers more regularly than others, not because of their colour, but as a bi-product of a genetic problem in a line of cockers who happened to be that colour, just as we could have seen more hip displacia or other hereditory disease in a certain line and therefore colour of a particular breed. This would not be a case where the colour of the dog itself caused the rage syndrome or hip displacia though.

On the other hand Temple Grandin in her book suggests that dog and horses with too much pink skin (predominantly white pintos, merles etc) can suffer from physcological problems which can manifest as aggression or other temperament issues. Seems possible as we know that too much pink pigment can often be linked with deafness and other physical problems.

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Quick disclaimer: I do not work in the genetics labs... but, I did take this away from my college genetics course!

Genes are strange things. The connections they make are varied and difficult to unravel. A gene that controls one thing is often responsible for more underlying things. This means that it is in fact possible there could be a shred of truth to this. Some of the gene that control coat color could be personality linked. I do not know that for fact, just applied principle.

I know that shelties that had more than 50% white coats showed a much higher tendency towards health problems... at least that was what they were saying back when I bought my training books. Personality is also genetic in it's underpinnings, so perhaps they're onto something.

Either that, or someone really needed a grant to keep working!
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