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Old 07-11-2007, 03:20 PM   #1
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Default Health tests by breed and breeder

I found a couple of sites that may be well-known to the members who have been actively breeding, but perhaps not so well-known to others. They might be helpful in making a decision as to whre to get a pup or what health tests need to be done.
First there is this site:
http://www.caninehealthinfo.org/breeds.html
which lists diseases specific to breeds and which tests should be carried out. It is not as extensive (or scary!) as a link I posted not too long ago.

If you want to search for records from a specific breeder (like to see if they are doing the health tests, not all say it on their site), the CHIC site will let you do it, and of course also http://www.offa.org/ is a good site to search for records.
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Old 07-11-2007, 03:39 PM   #2
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Although in the UK I find this thread very interesting, it gives an insight into whats happening in my breed (OES) over there in the States. Here in the UK the main tests are for HD and Heredity Cataracts.

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tophat is it possible to find that information online for the UK? Because we sometimes get questions along the lines if whether a breeder is reputable or not, and one of the hallmarks of a good breeder is that they do the health tests that are appropriate for the breed.
Sometimes however someone may be better at being a conscientious breeder than they are at coming up with a web site that has the information and so a way to get a test results without taking the step of contacting the breeder might be useful.
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Skunkstripe, unfortunately the UK Kennel Club and the Britsh Veterinary Association will only allow that information to be published in the Quarterly Breed Records Suppliment which anyone can purchase for £5.00 per quarter and comes in seven groups Working, Pastoral, Hounds, Gundogs, Utility, Toys and Terriers. They won't give the information without the breeders consent,its only the dogs pedigree name that appears in the breed record, so although you can find out the information, its not available online. The breed record only contains HD, Elbow Dysplasia and eye results.

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Skunkstripe have just checked on the Kennel Club web page and found that they do put the results of DNA testing up. To find them you need to go to www.thekennelclub.org.uk then click on responsible dog breeding then health screening and DNA issues, there you'll find results of DNA testing for different heredity problems in various breeds, unfortunately for OES we haven't any DNA test available at this moment in time, again only the dogs pedigree name is used, not the breeder.

Have checked on The Accredited Breeder scheme that the Kennel Club run. To become an Accredited Breeder all relevent health checks should be done and various criteria must be met, to find out more you need to go to the K.C. web page and go to the Accedited Breeder scheme, where all the details are listed. If it is run properly it should prove valuable for future reference, but the information only appears to be available from the Kennel Gazette (a monthly publication) but the Accedited breeders list is only published twice a year(I think!! not sure on that) So its not online, perhaps the Kennel Club will eventually get it online.

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I am suprised to see that Boxers are not enrolled.
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BCs are not enrolled either..although that might be tricky and confuse people lol cuz working bred and show bred dont have the same issues lol working bred only has HD and CEA as an issue, and many reputable working breeders dont test, as, if the dog is working all day everyday, the problems would show themselves(wworking breeders also breed older dogs as a 2 year old aint proven in nothing) but show bred has..HD, CEA, TNS, CL, and OCD
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BCs are not enrolled either..although that might be tricky and confuse people lol cuz working bred and show bred dont have the same issues lol working bred only has HD and CEA as an issue, and many reputable working breeders dont test, as, if the dog is working all day everyday, the problems would show themselves(wworking breeders also breed older dogs as a 2 year old aint proven in nothing) but show bred has..HD, CEA, TNS, CL, and OCD
That's pretty interesting. One would think that the conformation breeders would want to introduce some of these working lines to reduce those issues. Would that be possible?
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wont help. the problems always existed, the only reason working dogs dont have a problem is because we breed "like to contrast" (so minimal inbreeding, mostly outcrossing from all over the world) so the problems dont have a chance to show up. show breeding is based on "like to like"(mostly inbreeding, minimal outcrossing) and that is the only reason they have problems. if they introduce our working dogs it wont help, because unless they change their entire goal of breeding they will end up right back where they are now.
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BC have not been AKC registered for all that long (something like 15 years) , so perhaps there is not enough of a track record to get meaningful data.
Also one of the breed clubs is still upset over Border Collies being AKC recognized. I am not up on how the AKC decides what dams and sires to allow to contribute to the gene pool, but I suspect based on what I can get off the web that the BC conformation/show breeders and the BC working breeders are not exactly best buddies.
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