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Old 10-27-2016, 07:38 AM   #1
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Question Associating Clicker With Punishment?

I have long felt my dog Mugsy may have been hit or something before we rescued him. Not so much now but at first when I would raise my arms or get out a broom or something he would kind of look scared.

Mugsy is already almost 7 years old as far as we know meaning the Animal Shelter and our vet placed him at about 2 years old when we got him.

Unfortunately I have not done a lot of training over the past 5 years. I have been trained ha. ha.

I have been good about walking him, practically everyday for the last 4.5 years and we go a good mile and a half every nite. Being a Beagle/Jack Russell he needs it. We go rain, shine, heat, cold.

I know some don't like retractable leashes, I like it for him because of all of the sniffing and stuff he does and I like him to feel free. The drawbacks of course are making sure he does not run out in front of a car or go all the way up to somebodies front door. After all these years of walking him I have learned some don't mind him walking through their grass but some do.

I ran across the clicker we had bought so I got it out. Sometimes he will have that head down and want to keep tracking. He is so determined he will practically lay down pulling on the leash while I am trying to get him turned around. He's Diggin' in.

Anyway I started using it the other night and it works. He stops but he looks like he is being punished and I don't want him to think I am mad at him or punishing him.

I told my wife I think that he associates it with some type of punishment and I have the feeling that who ever had him as a puppy tried to train and punished him and he took off as fast as he could and he can be pretty fast. I am guessing that is how he ended up in the animal shelter in the 1st place.
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Old 10-27-2016, 10:45 AM   #2
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It looks like you have a beagle! They can be a very stubborn breed! Try using the clicker with a treat and lots of praise to build new associations with it. Be persistent and consistent and he will begin to associate the clicker with good things. Above all use a lot of 'good boys'
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I agree with treating with something really high value while you are using the clicker...and maybe continue the treating longer than you might with another dog. My dog was afraid of the sound of the clicker at first so I spent a great deal of time in the loading stage, treating her constantly for every "touch" she did at the beginning.
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Yes agree with the other posters on this, click get a good response=treat and don't forget the verbal praise too!! Good luck and let us know how you get on please!!
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It looks like you have a beagle! They can be a very stubborn breed! Try using the clicker with a treat and lots of praise to build new associations with it. Be persistent and consistent and he will begin to associate the clicker with good things. Above all use a lot of 'good boys'
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He is catching on. I don't have to use it much. He is learning "come" too.
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I used to think many of our shelter dogs we took in were abused or something but I found some are just sensitive. My purebred, breeder purchased akita was never abused or mistreated and she thought 90% of objects and 99% of people and noises were dangerous her first 8years. It took the first 2 years to trust me enough to protect her that we didn't land in thorn bushes because someone suddenly spoke loudly, a child appeared, or she just decided she didn't like that person up there. It's only the past few years of her life she has been getting more laid back. Inanimate objects are still not to move or make noise while touching her though. She still runs if you pull out a tape measure. It pops when it bends and can stick out far. If you had raised your arms quickly upon meeting her up until a few years ago she would have been gooooonne...... She might stop after a few hundred feet to a few miles depending just how determined you are to stop her and how good your rope was. She snapped several flexi leads used in emergencies, I never purposely took her anywhere with a flexi lead on hand, that were rated for 20-30lbs over her weight. It's just standard you have to bribe her to like anything and she doesn't bribe easy. She is not very food motivated so commercial treats are pretty much out unless she's already in a bored mood instead of investigating or running from something.

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How are you using the clicker? Are you clicking and treating when she is walking nicely? The clicker means a treat is coming so depends on how you are using it.

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How are you using the clicker? Are you clicking and treating when she is walking nicely and giving her a treat? She should be associating the clicker with getting a treat and being praised for doing something right.

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