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FrodoMom · 07-27-2014, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JGLI

Just to clarify, the use of a crate should not be a temporary thing. The benefits of crate training are evident throughout a dog's life. Dogs are often hospitalized, recuperating at home, need to travel, and situations arise where the dog may need to be isolated or confined. As well, the crate is the dog's
"safe area". A dog may not always need a crate to curb destructive behaviors or for potty training purposes, but the crate will have multiple uses and once a dog is comfortably crate trained, the crate need not be removed.

My puppy goes in his crate on his own at bedtime. I just wish I could find a chew proof dog bed! He tore up a really nice one.

Dunbar's Mom · 07-27-2014, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JGLI

Just to clarify, the use of a crate should not be a temporary thing. The benefits of crate training are evident throughout a dog's life. Dogs are often hospitalized, recuperating at home, need to travel, and situations arise where the dog may need to be isolated or confined. As well, the crate is the dog's
"safe area". A dog may not always need a crate to curb destructive behaviors or for potty training purposes, but the crate will have multiple uses and once a dog is comfortably crate trained, the crate need not be removed.

I agree with JGLI. Our Rosie had a crate and it was her "safe place". Though she was a friendly dog, when we had a big family gathering, she would often go in her crate. Sometimes she would lie there and stare at me until I closed the gate, and then she would curl up and go to sleep. She was a big dog...GSD/Great Pyranees and her crate was one of those big plastic sided crates with the vents on the side and the wire gate on the front. It was definitely her "safe cave".

Kyllobernese · 07-27-2014, 05:47 PM

Kris, my Doberman, is almost 18 months old and she still sleeps in her crate at night or if I am going out. She is quite happy to go in there, usually puts herself to bed at night so I see no reason for her to be loose to get into trouble.

She also always travels in her crate in the Van so I don't have to worry what she is doing when I am driving.

Bigboy · 07-27-2014, 07:47 PM

I personaly don't have a problem with Nipper not being in a crate she is now over 8 years old and if she is traveling in the car she will sit nicely in the foot well she will stay on the couch at night and nothing is touched including the sofa where she is lying on niot because of luck but training her how ever i do understand that some times a crate may be useful

**JGLI** · 07-27-2014, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigboy

I personaly don't have a problem with Nipper not being in a crate she is now over 8 years old and if she is traveling in the car she will sit nicely in the foot well she will stay on the couch at night and nothing is touched including the sofa where she is lying on niot because of luck but training her how ever i do understand that some times a crate may be useful

You are, however, overlooking the benefits of having a crate trained dog whether you choose to use one with your dog or not. Airplanes, trains, etc. do not have a "foot" where a dog is permitted to sit. If your dog is hospitalized at any time she will be crated and you can make such an event much easier on your dog and on your vet and the staff by having your dog crate trained. Such situations are already stressful enough for dogs without the added burden of coping with the crate as a scary, new experience instead of a familiar "safe" place. In times of natural disasters or other emergency events--such as those of us who have been through hurricanes understand all too well--it may well be that the dog has to be evacuated either to a designated animal shelter where it will be in a crate or to a shelter with you/its owners and it will not be permitted to accompany you without a crate. All are informed reasons not to discourage any dog owner from crate training their dog. My dogs at ages 16, 14, 11 1/2, and 1, as well as every other dog I have had with family have all been crate trained though they did not require it for curbing any undesirable behaviors nor after potty training was complete so that age is a non-issue.

Kaos · 07-27-2014, 09:58 PM

JGLI is right, having a crate trained dog is a huge advantage. One of my dogs recently spent a week in the vet hospital, and had more than enough stress to deal with without worrying about how to settle calmly in a crate. Because he was trained to get in and out on cue, it was much easier for staff to toilet him, and less stressful for him because he did not need to be manhandled.

To address the OP's question, we can only speculate about why there is a sudden change, but it doesn't much matter. What matters is what you do about it. I would start immediately retraining him. If you aren't sure how to go about this, I would recommend getting hold of a copy of Susan Garrett's Crate Games DVD. If you really want to speed things up, I would also feed all meals in the crate for a while.

You want to avoid grabbing his collar to drag him into the crate, this is a great way to get bitten.

Bigboy · 08-04-2014, 02:33 PM

Test!

**JGLI** · 08-15-2014, 04:19 PM

Good quick reference on crates:

Crate Training Dogs - PawNation

07-27-2014, 07:47 PM	#14
Bigboy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: UK: Stoke on trent Posts: 13,349 Rep: 73 Unique Rep: 38	I personaly don't have a problem with Nipper not being in a crate she is now over 8 years old and if she is traveling in the car she will sit nicely in the foot well she will stay on the couch at night and nothing is touched including the sofa where she is lying on niot because of luck but training her how ever i do understand that some times a crate may be useful __________________ " Iam chillin with the forum! " Thanks Monkey! I been fleeced Thanks Skunkstripe. Dave ATB!

07-27-2014, 09:58 PM	#16
Kaos Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 4,293 Rep: 264 Unique Rep: 68	JGLI is right, having a crate trained dog is a huge advantage. One of my dogs recently spent a week in the vet hospital, and had more than enough stress to deal with without worrying about how to settle calmly in a crate. Because he was trained to get in and out on cue, it was much easier for staff to toilet him, and less stressful for him because he did not need to be manhandled. To address the OP's question, we can only speculate about why there is a sudden change, but it doesn't much matter. What matters is what you do about it. I would start immediately retraining him. If you aren't sure how to go about this, I would recommend getting hold of a copy of Susan Garrett's Crate Games DVD. If you really want to speed things up, I would also feed all meals in the crate for a while. You want to avoid grabbing his collar to drag him into the crate, this is a great way to get bitten. Last edited by Kaos; 07-27-2014 at 10:02 PM..

08-04-2014, 02:33 PM	#17
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08-15-2014, 04:19 PM	#18
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07-27-2014, 05:47 PM	#13
Kyllobernese Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,953 Rep: 23 Unique Rep: 0	Kris, my Doberman, is almost 18 months old and she still sleeps in her crate at night or if I am going out. She is quite happy to go in there, usually puts herself to bed at night so I see no reason for her to be loose to get into trouble. She also always travels in her crate in the Van so I don't have to worry what she is doing when I am driving.

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