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Old 08-06-2008, 01:28 PM   #1
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Yesterday I took Charlie up to my friends house (never been before even though I've known this person for about 5 years). He owns a ton of land with grown in pastures and endless woods. One thing I did not know was that he recently acquired a dog. (I was away living in a different state for the last year and when i've seen him recently he never mentioned the dog) Apparently he rescued the dog from a family member (uncle or something) whom he does not really like (the uncle i mean). The family member had a muzzle on the dog just about every minute of every day. The family member also had allergies and tried to shave the dog with an unknown instrument thinking that it would get rid of the allergies. Well whatever he used to shave the dog was not meant to be used for that purpose. The dogs hair still hasn't grown back in some places and its been over a year, I think he must have damaged the skin. The dog is a real sweetie though (for the most part). I don't know what kind of dog she is, my friend says shes part siberian husky and some kind of wolf dog but who knows. Unfortunately she's got a dominance problem (most likely just the nature of that type of dog) that we (my boyfriend and I) are trying to help my friend correct. She pinned Charlie on the ground a couple of times and scared the snot out of her (no real injuries) and when my boyfriend tried to break it up the first time the dog bit his hand (didn't do much damage). My boyfriend then asserted his "paw" onto her head and held her down to assert his dominance. After that the dog seemed a lot better and Charlie and the other dog (Kiera) placed very nicely. Charlie however has had a sore ego ever since, she has just had her first lesson that she is not the big dog.
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Shelter from the rain:

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A little shaken up from the pin-down:


All in all they both had fun and im sure they'll eventually get over the sudden/random battles for dominance. I think Charlie's starting to get the idea that she's a follower, not a leader. lol.
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I would say that introduction went TOO fast... Especilly since the dog were so stressed out that a bite got redirected to your boyfriend. Next time take about an hour long walk together with a new dog and things should go a bit easier. On top of that, to try to dominate a dog that is not YOUR OWN can be very very very dangerous. The dog bit him by misstake not trying to dominate him, and if he had trusted people any less, to do something (putting hand on head can be threatening) can make the dog attack you. If someone had done that on Midnight when he had been a bit riled up, he's big enough to kill a human fairly easily if he really wanted to. So please be a bit more carefull for your own and other dogs sake, just take it slow when introducing two dogs so you get as little meassuring up sa possible. Usually they do all that during the 1 hour walk and play much more relaxed afterwards. This will increase dogs ability to comunicate in dog language and will inthe long run create a much more stable dog that learns to quicker judge other dogs and be calmer around them. The photos are georgus though, absolutely georgus
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I would say that introduction went TOO fast... Especilly since the dog were so stressed out that a bite got redirected to your boyfriend. Next time take about an hour long walk together with a new dog and things should go a bit easier. On top of that, to try to dominate a dog that is not YOUR OWN can be very very very dangerous. The dog bit him by misstake not trying to dominate him, and if he had trusted people any less, to do something (putting hand on head can be threatening) can make the dog attack you. If someone had done that on Midnight when he had been a bit riled up, he's big enough to kill a human fairly easily if he really wanted to. So please be a bit more carefull for your own and other dogs sake, just take it slow when introducing two dogs so you get as little meassuring up sa possible. Usually they do all that during the 1 hour walk and play much more relaxed afterwards. This will increase dogs ability to comunicate in dog language and will inthe long run create a much more stable dog that learns to quicker judge other dogs and be calmer around them. The photos are georgus though, absolutely georgus
The dogs played fine for a few hours before the pinning happened, they loved eachother!...so its not like it happened immediately. That's why I thought it was bizarre. It wasn't really malicious either, like I said before there was no real damage done. I think the dog is a more of a pack dog than Charlie and needs to periodically remind Charlie that she's boss.
The fight was not like a real fight, it was a dominance issue. You cannot pet this dogs stomach because of the dominance issues. This dog is not malicious, its just never had a real owner before and is reverting to its instincts because it knows nothing else. Noone gave it belly rubs before or cuddled it. It needs major socializing. I appreciate your concern however our approach is working fine. The dog is now getting used to people touching her stomach, which was not something you could do before without a nip. It's hard to give advice or tell someone how to handle a situation when you don't know all the details (however I really do appreciate advice). I guess you'd have to really have been there to know the dogs disposition and the actions that took place. In good news, she's a really sweet natured dog and is starting to become a more sociable dog.
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She dose look a lovely dog. Great pics thanks for sharing and keep us posted on how things are going.

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Looks like they enjoyed each other and got a tad bit rough, this happens and when it does I stand over and watch the control I might need, but never do to stop it.

Very lovely photos and your dog is so shiney and the other looks so kind. Glad they made friends and now you can visit and enjoy a nice big run for your dog....
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