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Old 07-19-2008, 10:38 AM   #1
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Default Have to import girl, no choice.

I am left now kinda stranded only have Girle to breed for me to keep a puppy since I did not get one at all. Gillion I am no planning to breed, scared she might take off to 14 pups. Wini from Netherlands has not cycled, so may sell her. I have a chance to import a female, she was ultra scanned with 7 seen, so a friend an me are splitting flight, pick up, etc. She is due Aug 4, pups can come Oct early.
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Old 07-19-2008, 10:43 AM   #2
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i hope everything will go well for you and as you hope. the sire is one handsome boy, i am sure the pups will be beautiful.
how come a breeder is selling a bitch in whelp? is that common? i am just curious as i am all new to keeping dogs.
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Old 07-19-2008, 10:46 AM   #3
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No No honey she is selling her puppies, it is her female she had checked as like me last year she had one I was going to import a male, she had to be spayed because of un naturl heats, pyametria of the uturus, she spayed her and found a home. She bought this female and bred her and she is carrying 7 or more pups. I am buying a puppy, not the female.
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Old 07-19-2008, 10:50 AM   #4
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ahhh now it makes sense! gosh i think last night is still haunting me and i should go to bed instead of surfing the forum
i do love the looks of the sire, he is stunning.
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Old 07-19-2008, 11:05 AM   #5
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Thank you honey the day goes on the head clears....lol.
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Gosh Shep. Those are going to be some PRETTy pups. Gorgeous boy, and prettyful girl.
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The bitch looks like a GSD I used to have. mine had the most lovely pups. The male is nice and dark too
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Fine looking dogs, I like the coloring on the dame.
Hope it works out after all you've been through, you could use a break!
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i have read this thread a couple of times now without posting as i dont really know how to word what i want to say, but i am going to try...

shep, i have a great amout of respect for you in the way you obviously love your dogs and the way you breed them and produce fine puppies...here comes the BUT...

i do feel uneasy when breeders have dogs and when they do not 'perform' (either produce puppies or even come on heat) they are sold on or given away, although i am sure that this is to vetted loving homes. i personally feel that once i had a dog in my care and had brought it up and trained it etc i would have such a bond that i just would not be able to be parted from that dog and it would be tantimount to giving away my child...

as i say, this is just my opinion and how i personally feel...please dont shout at me!
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i have read this thread a couple of times now without posting as i dont really know how to word what i want to say, but i am going to try...

shep, i have a great amout of respect for you in the way you obviously love your dogs and the way you breed them and produce fine puppies...here comes the BUT...

i do feel uneasy when breeders have dogs and when they do not 'perform' (either produce puppies or even come on heat) they are sold on or given away, although i am sure that this is to vetted loving homes. i personally feel that once i had a dog in my care and had brought it up and trained it etc i would have such a bond that i just would not be able to be parted from that dog and it would be tantimount to giving away my child...

as i say, this is just my opinion and how i personally feel...please dont shout at me!
Of course I can't answer for sheplover but I can attempt to help you to understand why some breeders rehome breeding dogs when they can no longer reproduce.

Everyone has a limit on how many dogs they can care for properly and give them the one on one attention that all dogs need. An ethical breeder spends countless hours seeing that all dogs in their care receive individual attention and are properly trained and socialized.

A very close bond is developed between a breeder and their brood bitches. When those bitches can no longer produce, the breeders time is taken up by growing puppies that will become replacements for those bitches. As a result, the amount of time that can be spent with the older dogs must be reduced. Rather than have the former brood matron shoved aside as just one of a pack, they are often re-homed to a loving family where they will remain the center of their universe and have all the one on one attention they've earned.

This doesn't mean in any way that the dog wasn't loved by the breeder just as much as any pet owner loves their dog. In fact it usually means exactly the opposite. It hurts every bit as much to place a retired brood bitch in a new home as it would a beloved pet. Tears are shed, and the sense of loss is tremendous. But knowing that the dog now has a forever home where she will have all the attentions she deserves for the rest of her life is worth the heartache.

My dog Coffee was a wonderful, well behaved, obedient dog with absolutely no baggage. She adored kids and would rather swim than eat. When she had to be spayed she could no longer compete or reproduce. Since we had several other dogs we were working with at the time, poor Coffee wasn't getting the amount of attention she'd come to expect and so richly deserved.

When a friend with two great kids, a huge backyard and a full sized swimming pool asked if they could adopt Coffee, it was one of the most difficult decisions of my life. When we took her to them I cried all the way over to their house, all the way back and for weeks afterward.

A few weeks later when we went back to see her, the joy in her eyes and the eyes of her new family as she and the kids played in the pool were enough to convince me that putting Coffee's best interests first was one of the best decisions I'd ever made.

It isn't about "getting rid" of the dog; it's about doing what's best for them under the circumstances so they will have the best life possible!
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