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Old 04-07-2017, 05:47 PM   #1
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Several weeks ago Sir Moose was diagnosed with liver disease. His liver enzymes were 4 times higher than normal. He was put Royal Canin Hepatic kibble and canned, and a drug called Ursodiol that is for gall bladder and liver. The dang food was (rounded off number) $100 for 26 pound bag, $$3.38 for a can. The med was $220 for a months supply at WalMart, but I used a coupon and got it at Walgreen's for $150, and my vet has give me a bottle that someone donated when their dog died.

Sir Moose had started losing weight back in Oct or Nov when he started being so picky about his food. He had always had dry kibble in the morning and then at ight kibble with about 1/3 cup of the homemade true stew on it. He got to where he would not eat morning kibble and then started picking at supper. We changed from Taste Of The Wild bison to the TOTW fowl. Few days, he woudlnt' eat it. Long story short, we went to the Nutrish (2 flavors), Purina One , Pedigree, and lastly Iams. It was also during this time that we found he had a problem with Heartgard even tho he had been on it at least 6 years. He really got sick in Dec. a couple of hours after taking it. And his weight had dropped from 105 to 95.

We switched him to Interceptor and he has them 4 times (gets them on the 1st of ech month) and no trouble. Anway, he just would not eat that hepatic food. I had to follow him around and hand feed him a couple of bites several times a day. I resorted to putting some of his stew in it and he wouldn't eat it. He had had the behign tumor (we din't know if it was cancer or not when removed) and the blood work done before surgery is what showed his high liver enzymes and a white blood count that was a little low.

He was 85 pounds when he had the surgery. Two weeks later he was down to 81 pounds and only eating about 1/2 cup of food a day. He wanted his morning walk, but moved slower. He paid no attention to what I was doing int he kitchen, not very alert, etc. He was jus wasting away.

SO I decided no more of that food he wouldn't eat and I asked people on the golden forum and the Pyrenees forum and ones who had dogs with liver disease gave me info and I researched and found foods low in copper. And I started home cooking for him.

Breakfast typically is a bowl of oatmeal with a tad of honey, some milk, a little boiled chicken breast, maybe a scrammed egg added. I add 3/4 teaspoon of organ milk thistle Early afternoon, about 3/4 cup of cottage cheese (which he loves). Supper, rice boiled in chicken broth along with different veggies to change taste--green beans, carrots, small pieces of potatoes, okra, squash. then I add a little cheese while hot and chopped chicken breast. Another 3/4 teaspoon of the milk thistle, a vitamin for senior dogs and some cold pressed organic coconut oil..By the way, I boil those chicken breasts, 2 at a time, bone them remove skin, and chop them up. They last about 4 days. I use the broth from cooking them instead of canned.

We had always left a tiny tad of dessert for him to lick out of our bowl, but had stopped. Once I started home cooking, we decided to elt him him is beloved "dessert". He is "Johnny on the spot" when he knows it is dessert time, watching ears perked. He lays in the kitchen watching me prepare his food. He is faster on his walks, boucnes around all excited. I don't know if he has gained any weight, but he has not lost much if any. He is much happier, more alert.

It was a hard decision because he may have needed to stay on that special food. But he was unhappy and he was wasting away. His quality of life was not that good. Now, he is happier and maybe his life will be shorter, but we decided his quality of life was more important that the quantity of his life. What do you think? (Taking him to the vet next week)
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Old 04-07-2017, 08:08 PM   #2
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When Chessie was fighting osteosarcoma, I began home cooking for her too. She didn't want anything at all to do with whatever dog food we tried but she did eat what I cooked for her. The staff at LIVS helped me to put together a meal plan for her and I found that helpful. Would Moose's vet be willing to give you some advice for homemade foods?
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I totally agree that in Sir Moose's situation, quality of life is the most important. I would be doing the same thing you are doing.
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I agree quality of life is more important!
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Thank you all. Sir Moose is so much more happy and alert and interested in things now. He wanted to go the longest walk today--Jerry always lets him pick exactly where he wants to go, which route unless for some reason it needs to be a short walk--like before church on Sunday or a morning doctor appointment, etc. And even if his life is shorter due to this decision, it will be worth it to see him so happy and content.
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Oh gosh, I have only just seen this. I'm pleased Moose seems so much happier. I entirely agree that it is quality over quantity.

I did have a quite similar situation with Roly. He would not eat his special food nor in the end any other food. The only thing I made him eat (well squirted in his mouth) was the special paste that was full of lots of nutrients he needed. Other than that in the end I jut let him eat whatever he chose or I could entice him with.

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