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Unread 02-20-2010, 01:37 AM   #1
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My Border Collie, Kyia, had ear problems all his life. He was deaf when he died at 16 years old. I fought his ear infections/problems for years taking him to the vet and getting prescriptions. The meds would work for a while but not long enough. Over and over again, he had ear problems. It wasn't what he died of. Actually, I put him down when he couldn't walk due to internal bleeding relating to a liver tumor. Never the less, the ear problems were a constant battle throughout his life. Kyia was mostly deaf by the age of 10. He lived a long live but the last 6 years of his life, he could hardly hear anything except maybe strong claps of the hand or a subwoofer on the stereo. He was such a good dog, the best. He would always come to me even outside if I called him but he liked to explore. Later in his life I couldn't trust that he would hear me so I had to keep him on a leash or fenced as he tended to roam and I was worried he would get hit by a car on the road as he couldn't hear. I had to go searching for him many times. I was really worried he'd get hit by a truck as he could not hear. Actually, I thought for sure that's the way he would die but in the end he died from tumors on the liver. The local vet would perscribe ear drops and it always worked for about 5 weeks then again, ear problems. Over and over again. It was a never ending issue. I changed his dog food and even went gluten free but that didn't work.

Now I have Bonnie, a female Border Collie and am battling the same ear problems. It started about 6 months after I got her. Now I'm wondering if there is something in my house or on my property that causes it. It's the exact same problem. A few weeks ago, I decided to put Lamisil cream in her ears along with cleaning her ears once a day with Epi-Otic cleanser. This seems to be working well. Her ears are nearly normal now. I used Epi-Otic on Kyia too but not the Lamisil cream. A friend told me to try Lamisil and I figured it couldn't hurt if I didn't put it deep in the ear. I've just been putting it on my finger then rubbing it onto her inside ear flaps. It seems to have made a huge difference but I wonder if I should actually try to put it in her ear canal?

Can putting Lamisil cream into a dogs ear be harmful?

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P.S. if anyone wants to see my Kyia, you can visit his web site here, in his memory. http://www.rvlover.net/Kyia.htm

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Hello Coffeejoe, welcome. I am very sorry to hear about the loss of your Kyia and to hear that you believe Bonnie is experiencing similar problems. What you would need to know is if the type of hearing loss your dog has is sensorineural (relating to the auditory nerve and/or cochelar issues) or conductive (decreased sound sensitivity due to blockages, infections, tympanic membrane problems, etc. of the outer and middle ear) and I would not treat any ear or perceived hearing problem without the recommendation of your vet. Lamisil is often used to treat ringworm and/or fungal infections and as there are many etiologies and cause-specific treatments for conductive hearing loss problems, it is unlikely the lamisil would be effective except in such a circumstance. In most instances, conductive hearing loss is usually correctable; it would be worth your while to have your dog looked at by a veterinary otologist who can identify what type of hearing loss your dog has as well as treatment options.
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Hi JGLI,

Bonnie still hears very well. I'm just worried with all her ear infections that she won't hear for much longer, like Kyia. She is leading the same life as Kyia did as far as ear infections. That is, Kyia had many ear infections throughout his life and I believe this is what caused his hearing loss at a relatively early age. I worry Bonnie will lose her hearing if these infections continue. It's a constant battle. The vet is of no help other than providing ear drops. The infections come back over and over again and the vet just asks me to bring her back in. I probably spent 600 to 1000 dollars on Kyia each year for medical (the last year of his life well over 2000). I spent at least 400 on Bonnie last year and already 150 this year on medical bills. The Lamisil on the inside ear flap *seems* to be working to keep her ear irritation down. I just would like to know if actually putting Lamisil in her ear canal would be bad for her.

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Welcome to df Coffeejoe! This is a good place to ask questions! Though each reply may also include 'see your vet' lol
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Have you considered/looked into the food you give Bonnie? A food allergy could be complicating things. My Dalmatian had to have a specific diet because her skin (including ears) reacted to everything. She fought fungal and bacterial infections of the ear regularly. She would go on antibiotics plus an antifungal/antibiotic ear drop now and then for a couple of weeks, everything would calm down for a few months, then flare up again. Changing her diet helped a lot but it still didn't resolve all of the problem.

I would not put the lamisil in the ear canal. It's pretty thick and could trap moisture in there and greatly worsen the issue.
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I do not know for sure if Lamasil is safe to put in a dog's ear, but I wouldn't think so? I also don't see how it would help, as ear infections are often caused by yeast - and Lamasil is an anti-fungal? As someone else mentioned, I'd also wonder if it isn't trapping more bacteria/etc in the ear canal & in the long run making things worse?

Anyways - some dogs are just prone to ear infections by genetics. However, for some dogs it is food related. What are you feeding?
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i don't know , but might be there is some problem at your house , like if you have loudspeakers at your house that could be the one reason of ear problems .

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Yeast is a fungus too.
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I do not know for sure if Lamasil is safe to put in a dog's ear, but I wouldn't think so? I also don't see how it would help, as ear infections are often caused by yeast - and Lamasil is an anti-fungal? As someone else mentioned, I'd also wonder if it isn't trapping more bacteria/etc in the ear canal & in the long run making things worse?

Anyways - some dogs are just prone to ear infections by genetics. However, for some dogs it is food related. What are you feeding?
I don't think it's unsafe on the flap. I do think that a product for dogs would be more effective.

as someone already pointed out - but just to reemphasize, yeast is a fungus.
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yes i agree with some people that genetics may be the reason or some bacteria or fungus might have caused the ear problems

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