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Old 07-31-2006, 11:40 AM   #1
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So I'm sure this is going to be really stomach turning for some of you (it is for me) but I have to ask b/c I can't find the answer on a search engine.

All 4 pups and momma are on worming meds for some nasty intestinal worms (i can't remember exactly which ones they are...but they look like looooong spaghetti and tend to curl up in little curly circles). They all were given a 3 day supply of Panacur PER dog. (everyone got fed the meds on the food individually to make sure they got the correct dosage). Last night was their last dose of Panacur but all day yesterday and today the puppies fecals have been pretty much straight worms, no fecal matter...just worms and goo...and Tikaani has a TON of worms in her stool.

So my question is...is that normal? Should I be checking the worms at all to see if they're dead. (i'm not exactly excited to go digging through a nasty pile of worms, goo and poop...but i'll do it if I have to) Are they supposed to be having movements of straight worms? I'm absolutely amazed at the amount of worms that seems to be in each of them and even for as big as they are, I can imagine they'd have been even bigger if they didn't have the parasites in them.
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Eww. Im not sure if thats normal. Seems like the worms would have to come out somehow right. Maybe you should call a vet to make sure.
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Unfortunately I called my vet this morning and she hasn't bothered to call me back (good thing I'm not using her long term...*frowns*). I mean, I figure they all will come out in bowel movements...but I'm not sure how Panacur affects the system. My understanding is these worms latch to the sides of the intestinal walls and feed that way...and the Panacur causes them to detach...so I could only assume that they'd come out in clumps...but I didn't know it'd be straight worm clumps and nothing else.

There's just more worms in their little bodies than I ever imagined possible.
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That sucks about the vet. I hope everything turns out okay though, sorry Im not much help.
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does anyone know approx how long they are supposed to pass worms?
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Yes, it's completely normal. The worms are normally attached to the intestinal wall (they're round worms by the way) and only become dislodged in death. If they are in the poo, they're dead. I don't think they'll be passing worms for much longer either .

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I appreciate the verification on that Becky. Thank you
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LOL thanks Lynne for the details. i'm having spaghetti bolognese for tea tonight
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You're welcome lassie

I'm just trying to make sure EVERYONE got a good visual in case someone in the future had the same problem lol
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In fact..while I'm trying to be helpful, I thought I'd pass this along for anyone that might be looking for a definition:

ROUNDWORMS (Toxocara canis, Toxascaris leonina) are the most common type of worm to infect the animal kingdom. These worms are usually 2 – 4 inches long, tan or white “spaghetti-like” creatures with tapered ends. If a roundworm burden is heavy, a dog may vomit these worms or pass them (whole) in the stool. Roundworms can cause vomiting and diarrhea and can have an effect on a dog’s overall general health and appearance. Puppies infected with roundworms will have a “potbellied” (bloated) look to them. Roundworms can become so numerous that they can cause an intestinal blockage and stool cannot pass. As mentioned above, roundworms are zoonotic (can be transferred to humans) and can cause an infection known as “Visceral Larva Migrans”, which may result in possible inflammation of muscle tissue and blindness. Anthelmintics (dewormers) that are frequently used to treat roundworms are pyrantel pamoate, fenbendazole and piperazine



So I'm curious now though...i read elsewhere that meds DON'T affect that eggs that are encased in hard shells...so how do you get rid of roundworm then if you kill the adults but not the eggs and then the eggs hatch? Or am I missing something there? Seems to me like a vicious cycle. Though, what I read above and in other places makes me feel terrible b/c there was a point where one, (possibly two) of the puppies was vomitting...so I know it got bad at one point. Tikaani was throwing up too. I'm glad that they're all doing better now and passing their food through the CORRECT end and their potbelly look is going away (i never would have guessed that it was a problem w/ their bellies...I thought it was b/c they were getting a good amount of food)
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