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Old 05-09-2007, 06:51 PM   #1
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Default Breeding dogs for the RIGHT reasons.

First off I want to say that the opinions I am about to share are mine and are not meant to spark a fight of any kind, nor are they meant to offend anyone. Friendly debate is always welcome and encouraged.

Before anyone breeds their dog they need to consider the reasons behind why they want to breed.

Is it because you love you dog and think that as a whole the world would be a better place with more dogs like your's in it?

This reasoning only serves to add more unwanted dogs in the long run. 1-10 shelters dogs is adopted, the rest are euthanised from not fault of their own other then being born.

Is it because you think that allowing one breeding is better for the health of your dog ?

There is no proof behind this reasoning as a matter of fact it is better to spay your bitch rather then allow her to have to go through the very taxing prospect of a pregnancy. Pregnancy takes alot of energy and can come with complications at the cost of the bitch.

Are you willing to take the time and incur the monetary value of having all the proper health checks done to ensure as best you can that all the pups are free fron genetic health problems?

This is not a cheap prospect, you need to have in most cases, genetic testing done for hips, eyes, elbows, heart, and otehr genetic disease that can be passed on. You must also consider the studs health checks as well.

Are you willing to keep any pup that you can not find a home for ?

Who else will take the pup if no home can be found. What if you have to keep them all ? Or most of them ? There are lots people do not consider this when breeding.

Are you willing to pay for the pups first and possibly second sets of shots and deworming before you send them to their new homes ?

This is expensive and if you have 6-8 or more pups it can cost hundreds of dollars. All responisble breeders will vaccinate and deworm.


IMHO the only reason a dog should be bred is to better the breed and only after the dog has proven itself in the show ring or in the job it was breed to do. It should only be bred once it is found to be free of any genetic defect that can be passed on, such as hypo-thryiodism, bad hips, bad eyes, bad temperament and free of genetic disease. The dog should be a perfect specimen and conform to breed standards only.

You should find a mentor breeder that can help you with the process and be there for you when you have questions.

A responsible breeder should screen any potential buyer and scrutinize everything about that buyer. The breeder should consider whether or not their breed of dog is suitable for the person buying. The breeder should want to make sure their dog gets that forever home and never ends up in a shelter or rescue. A responsible breeder should be willing to take back any dog that they have bred if need be and be willing to rescue their own dogs if they end up in a shelter or a rescue org. They should always be responisible for what they have brought on this earth till the day it dies, in other words if need be bring it back home.

A repsonsible breeder should give written gaurantees for health and temperament. They should never be in breeding to make money ( breeding is expensive and usually ends up costing the breeder more then they make ). You should be able to view both parents and if not at least the bitch should be there interacting with you and her puppies at the same time.

A responsible breeder takes the time to consider when is right to breed their dog and only breeds once in awhile.

In closing remember to keep this discussion light. It can be touchy but as long as we express our views without being bias we will have a great discussion.

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Old 05-09-2007, 06:56 PM   #2
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Old 05-09-2007, 07:11 PM   #3
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Thanks. I just want people to THINK before they breed. It is a huge commitment and most people whom are not breeders already have no idea, do not care or want to make some cash. All the wroing reasons.

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I agree 110%. So many people think they can make a good living doing this, which is the WRONG reasons to breed in the first place.

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Old 05-09-2007, 07:23 PM   #5
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I agree 110%. So many people think they can make a good living doing this, which is the WRONG reasons to breed in the first place.
I equate that to the wrong reasons as well. You are playing with an animals life to breed just for money or breeding at all. There is always risk involved. This is a major issue I have with puppy miller, they not only are playing with the pups life they are also playing with the bitches life.
They have no care about what happenes to their dogs and pups they want money and they do this at the great suffering of the animal.

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Awesome post! Thanks for sharing!
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Thanks for the post. Yeah, you only have to look at some 'ad' sites to see why people are breeding, no mention of registrations, health testing or what sort of 'lines' they are, ppl think its sufficient to say "lovely pure PEDIGREE pupppies" ppl use that term (woteva it means!!) without knowing ANYTHING about the breed they are breeding. with some sites its like 90% of the adds are like this, and its clear, its all to make a buck, and they do, cause most ppl dont mind buying a puppy when they dont know much about dogs.
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Old 05-09-2007, 07:32 PM   #8
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Awesome post. Now, if we could actually get this to sink in...
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Thanks Dobermans, one of my favorite topics!

To maintain the integrity and qualities of all purebreds there must always be potential new breeders in the making. Dedicated individuals who are constantly learning and preparing themselves for the day when they will be prepared to take over their responsibility for preserving their chosen breed.
Mentors are vital to these newcomers and their chances of success or failure.

Simply having a particular breed as a pet doesn't qualify anyone to breed dogs! The average pet owner has no idea of the effort and even personal sacrifices that have gone into producing their dog. This includes the mixed breed pets, whose ancestors somewhere down the line were originally the product of a dedicated breeder. Sadly those ancestors fell into the hands of irresponsible pet owners and created the biggest share of the pet over population problem!

Breeding good dogs is very expensive and extremely time consuming and not for the faint of heart or selfish. Willingness to share hard earned knowledge, including both triumphs and tragedies should be the key to any ethical breeders philosophy.

Long before anyone begins breeding they must have developed a real and lasting passion for that particuar breed and know that breeds, strengths, weaknesses, history and standard by heart. That knowledge doesn't come from the act of purchasing a purebred dog. It comes from years of experience and direct involvement in the breed.

Even the most ethical breeders must also be willing to admit to themselves and take responsibility for the fact that no matter how pure their intentions may be; they also play a role in adding to the pet overpopulation problem.
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I agree with much of your sentiment Dobermans, healthy and temperament priorities, not breeding for profit, being willing to take back or keep unwanted pups etc.

Where I differ, however, is I don't agree that only pedigrees should ever be bred, or that breeding those who closely match the breed standard is always 'bettering the breed'. I have huge problems for example with breed standards that result in dogs that have numerous health problems related to their conformation. Are we really doing dogs a favour by breeding such short muzzles they can't breathe properly and have trouble with temperature control. Should we be breeding long backed short legged dogs? Breeds that have difficulty breeding or giving birth naturally? So many wrinkles that they have sight problems?

In NZ the farm dog of choice is what we call a 'huntaway'. This is not a pedigree dog, and has been bred selectively by generations of farmers to cope with the specific working conditions here. Why is this wrong?

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