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Old 03-16-2013, 02:46 PM   #11
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Thank you both :-)

Im near wolverhampton, uk.

I'll certainly be keeping an eye out for someone local now, Im fairly sure its jealousy and a little to do with being curious too, he's pounced down to try to play with cats before, like he would when encouraging another dog to play. Now Im calm and the cat seems ok, it looks more and more like he just doesn't know how to have respect for the other two cats that he doesn't know so well.

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Old 03-16-2013, 03:06 PM   #12
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I think dogs raised with cats or kittens from puppyhood do better with cats and I think the cats do better also and are less likely to run which only instigates the dog's prey drive. Your cat wasn't running so it is hard to say what got your dog to 'attack'. Was the cat wagging its tail maybe?

When we first got Sadie.we had to set up safe areas for the cat we had,(no longer with us), and Sadie was constantly looking for it and knew every hiding place the cat used. She would almost pull the leash out of my hand if we saw a cat on walks. She is better now as she is fairly good with 'leave it' or my sharp Ah-Ah but she still wants to.
There is one cat we see regularly, sort of The Town Cat that roams the two blocks of businesses. I was inside a small eatery once and Sadie was outside the door but still on leash when I heard her yelping. I looked out and that town cat(a calico) was all overSadie's face. She has a lot of respect for that cat now and I can't say for sure but that incident may be when she started being a bit more cautious about cats.
Sadie is a herding dog and probably herding or hunting and other breeds have more of that prey drive than others. I have often wondered what Sadie would do if she actually caught a cat but I'm not going to test to find out. I hope you can find a solution for your furry friends but I WOULD NEVER TRUST that it won't happen again even if it hasn't happened for a long time.
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linzi, welcome to the forum, and I'm glad your cat is ok. I would have to agree with Monkey, and call in a trainer. None of my Collies have ever had a high prey drive, and have accepted a stray cat with no problem at all. They were all best buddies.

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Thank you both :-)

Im near wolverhampton, uk.

I'll certainly be keeping an eye out for someone local now, Im fairly sure its jealousy and a little to do with being curious too, he's pounced down to try to play with cats before, like he would when encouraging another dog to play. Now Im calm and the cat seems ok, it looks more and more like he just doesn't know how to have respect for the other two cats that he doesn't know so well.
I think you have hit the nail on the head so to speak it's teaching your dog to play/respect nicely. Nipper as a pup would bound over to any dog and be a bit pushy towards them in return she has been growled at many a time by socialised dogs as a warning she has never been attacked just told off by other dogs which is a good thing! I then started to use N.I.L.I.F techniques where Nipper 'has' to sit on command and when she is calm I say go and say hello ( she know's what that means!) and away she goes, so greetings now are good and calm
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yeah its usually just a mistake, wolverhampton eh.. Hmm... LOL

I dont know how good they are, but they use clicker which I approve of..
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so Id look into them to begin with
Ive used clicker to help form a good leave it for Carlton, he is a special ed case who will attack items.. or redirect on people if he gets agitated enough. So to teach him to ignore whatever starts working him up we have cued that with clicker. It is a very powerful tool..
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Yes will add though make sure this center the Monkey provided a link for you uses only positive training methods if there is any use of prong/shock collars then don't go there
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Sorry but I am going to disagree with the majority here. I find most dog owners are in complete denial of their dog's natural instincts, and I don't think this was likely to be an 'accident' or an attempt to play. You have a large dog, and small cats. Your dog is growing from adolescent into an adult, and your timid cat is acting like prey. Allowing ANY kind of chasing / play between a big powerful dog and cats IMO is a very very bad idea. I would stop that behaviour immediately, and allow only calm interaction with the cats. It really doesn't take much for hard wired predatory behaviour to kick in.

I do think you need to separate your cats from your dog any time you are not present in the room. Allowing the dog to continue to chase and / or fixate with a muzzle on is not an acceptable solution. I would crate train this dog if he isn't already, to ensure that you have a safe solution at night or other times you can not be present. I would spend time reinforcing calm behaviour around the cats and focus on you. Reinforce heavily with high value food during training sessions where cats are in the background but being ignored. Bear in mind that dogs who are safe with cats indoors are not always safe with cats outdoors.

I do agree that an in home assessment from a good trainer would be a very sensible plan.

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