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Old 02-03-2012, 01:17 PM   #1
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about 3 or 4 months ago my boyfriend and i adopted a 1 1/2 year old what we believe to be a rottweiler/redbone coon hound mix.
shes got her share of obedience problems and we're working on training her, but walking her is IMPOSSIBLE. I know obedience accounts for a lot if not all of the pulling/jumping/lunging while we're on walks. However you would think this poor dog has a death wish, because she only seems to do it at CARS. The occasional squirrel or other dog I can handle, but she goes absolutely CRAZY when its a car..of any kind. And I'm 110 pounds, shes 65 and STRONG. There is very little I can do to keep her from doing it.

so were looking into trying different leash/collar combos to see if it will help or if we're just destined to have an ornery puppy on our hands because she cant get her exercise until absolute obedience is achieved. Does anyone have any suggestions??

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I would recommend the Gentle Leader harness. I've used it on my dog and for the most part it works wonders. It keeps him from pulling but if he sees another dog he still tries to play with them. Oh, and my dog will often throw himself to the ground because he's trying to get the Gentle Leader off his face. My dog is 70 lbs and similar to your dog, except he loves to go after squirrels. The difference is that with a Gentle Leader he doesn't try and run after them, so it may help to prevent your dog from chasing after cars.

Another option would be the Easy Walk body harness, which I believe is made by the same company that makes the Gentle Leader (Premier I think is their name). I currently use this on my dog but have had mixed results. He still pulls, but not nearly as much as he did when I walked him by his collar. the only reason I continue to use it is because it's a body harness and doesn't choke him. I know there are other companies out there and I believe there are a few users here that have recommended similar types of body harnesses made by different companies.

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I highly recommend an Easy walk with a 4 or 6 foot leather or nylon Leash. I would also work on desensitizing her to cars. And learning some good impulse control Teaching her that rather than to chase the car give me an alternate behavior, something more appropriate. An experienced trainer can help you with this.

In this instance I would not recommend a head collar just because I do not see her reaction to the cars and worry that if she flails and twists and turns too much she can injure herself.


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ugg, thats the thing. we have both the gentle leader AND the easy walk harness and she STILL pulls. This morning while walking her, i had her on the gentle leader and she lunged at not one, but TWO cars.
The gentle leader helps only slightly more than the easy walk. Im going to have to say that this is mainly an obedience thing if the two most recommended things for pullers, dont seem to help.
and when i say she has her fair share of obedience problems, i mean she doesnt listen...ever. Ive actually wondered if shes deaf a few times because she just out right ignores us (but we know she isnt because she does respond to noise and sometimes when we call her she'll look at us).
so im just trying to figure out a way to get her under control without a professional. i never thought that something could make me as frustrated as she makes me. im just at a loss. i think she needs a professional- my boyfriend says other wise...and hes the bread winner, so what he says goes lol. i just want to be able to enjoy my dog without getting so frustrated that i want to take her back to the SPCA.

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There are a lot of helpful videos on Youtube that will help you even without paying for a professional.

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ugg, thats the thing. we have both the gentle leader AND the easy walk harness and she STILL pulls. This morning while walking her, i had her on the gentle leader and she lunged at not one, but TWO cars.
The gentle leader helps only slightly more than the easy walk. Im going to have to say that this is mainly an obedience thing if the two most recommended things for pullers, dont seem to help.
and when i say she has her fair share of obedience problems, i mean she doesnt listen...ever. Ive actually wondered if shes deaf a few times because she just out right ignores us (but we know she isnt because she does respond to noise and sometimes when we call her she'll look at us).
so im just trying to figure out a way to get her under control without a professional. i never thought that something could make me as frustrated as she makes me. im just at a loss. i think she needs a professional- my boyfriend says other wise...and hes the bread winner, so what he says goes lol. i just want to be able to enjoy my dog without getting so frustrated that i want to take her back to the SPCA.
Sorry to hear the Gentle Leader and Easy Walk harness doesn't work for your dog. With that said, I think your boyfriend is wrong. I think your dog does need some sort of obedience training, otherwise, she'll continue with her behavior. I think being consistent with your dog can be beneficial but she also needs to learn that her behavior is unacceptable. My dog doesn't really listen to me much either, despite trying to give him treats and positive reinforcement but I have managed to teach him a few things since we adopted him 4 months ago. Maybe try giving your dog training treats to see if it gets her attention. When I'm at home my dog will be all over me as soon as I have a treat in my hand, but when we're at the dog park not so much.

why doesn't your boyfriend think obedience training is necessary?

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He does think obedience training will help, he just thinks that we can train her to be obedient ourselves. He got the book "Imagine Life with a Well Behaved Dog" because 'it had great reviews' and swears that we can do it ourselves with the help of this book. I dont think so. It tells you to be calm and assertive and the dog will listen. Lies. Mine does not. Am I not being calm and assertive? The book doesnt come with audio on how calm and assertive is supposed to sound, lol.
She listens to me better than him and im not sure if thats because i sat at her kennel for an hour rubbing her muzzle telling her we were going to bring her home and we bonded, or if its because im another female..like i really dont know, lol. but i/we can get her to do SOME things. she will sit. she will lay down. she can give you her paw or give you a high five...but ONLY if you have a treat in your hand and she knows it.
we take her to our local dog park (the bark park!) and she will only run around if you chase her. and its clearly a fenced in park, because if we let her off the leash, i doubt wed see her again til the spca calls saying we have your dog. she doesnt seem to be interested at all in playing with other dogs. she just meanders around trying to get people to pet her/see who has food. and now its winter time and we cant take her to the bark park a lot and the only other option we have for her (since we dont own a treadmill) is taking her for a walk...which is difficult.
ill say it a thousand times: im at a loss, lol.

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Lauren, it sounds like you could use a professional trainer. What I just now noticed, is you live in Wilmington. What part of Wilmingon? I live in Newark, so I am thinking I'm only 10 or 15 minutes from you. I am by no means a professional dog trainer, but I trained all 3 of our dogs with positive reinforcement, and a ton of on-line advice. I would not mind going to your house to meet you and Autumn. If you decide to go to a professional handler, let me know. I can tell you who NOT to contact. Not all training methods are the same. You want to find someone that uses positive reinforcement, and lots of love. You don't have enough posts for me to send you a private message, or I'd send you my phone number. Another thought is the Petco on Kirkwood Highway. I'm not sure if they offer training classes there, but it's worth a call.

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I adopted a difficult dog, one that had been rehomed many times. I had no dog handling skill at all. I came to find out that I had a very smart rogue that wasn't aggressive but sure did know how to take advantage. Frodo had a very strong herding urge, naturally given his mix. He body slammed a Chevy suburban while out on a walk, it was so cold the leash slipped out of my hand. I had no choice but to work with a trainer, and I have been very committed to it. He is out of the woods now as far as that goes.
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I'll be honest with you, I don't think you have an equipment problem at all. I think any piece you currently have will help in your training. But it's just going to do that. There isn't a single piece of equipment out there that is going to 'fix' her pulling besides teaching her the appropriate behavior. You have my two most recommended products for pulling. Alone they will only lessen the severity of it, but will not eliminate it. Same goes for a prong, btw. (Which I do not recommend for a good 99% of dogs) I especially do not recommend them for people not working with a professional trainer. Your equipment will only do as much as you do. (And I am not saying oyu're not working on hre! Please don't take it that way) Just understand the best fix is to modify her behavior.

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