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Unread 08-08-2008, 09:39 PM   #11
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Well, if the dog had died at home, or she had got to see it she would probably react MORE to it. But just like me I take it you do take them out separately from time to time so therefor it's perfectly normal. You might get a reaction later or maybe she just adapted... Tasha wouldn't react too much if Missy dissapeared, she is tied to me. However if I mention ANY of the other dogs named of dogs she has liked she runs around to look for them.. so it might come but hopefully it wont..
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Unread 08-09-2008, 04:40 AM   #12
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Most of the time my boys are together, like feeding,sleeping,walking the only time they are apart is if one is ill and being kept at the vets. The boys are littermates so have been together all their life. The day will come when there will only be one and was interested in how to deal with this for the best. I think they do know when something is wrong, when Sam was at the vet school for 4 days getting his bone fusion operation Jack was so quiet and depressed without him it was sad to see.
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In our household it was common for some of the dogs to be gone for days or even weeks at a time while others remained at home. Quite often the dogs that were closest to each other were the ones that were separated.

On the few occasions when I was home with the ones that had been left behind, it was noticeable that they were aware of the changes. The behavior differences were subtle and only noticed if I was looking for them. Difficulty in settling into a particular spot or deciding which of the remaining dogs to cuddle up with, checking the empty spot where the crate had been etc. Most noticeable were the changes in the play patterns. The best way I could describe it is to say that they had an awareness of the changes in their routine.

The same behavior was noticeable after the death of a dog. It wasn't as if they were so much aware of the death. Just the changes!
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I have mixed feelings on this topic on the one hand I know that they aren't humans and don't have the same emotions or react the same however a friend of mine had both mother and daughter dogs, the mother passed away (in the house) but the remaining daughter dog curled up in a corner of the house and sort of gave up on life it refused to eat or drink they had to take it to the vet where it was put on a drip and force fed because it refused to this went on for days (i think it was well over a week) and eventually they put it to sleep because it just refused to eat by itself or even move. I know this was a reaction to a change in the dynamics of the house (she no longer had a pack leader) and the obvious grieving of the owners but I've never heard of anything like this happening before and I know it probably is me humanizing the dog to much but the dogs reactions seemed to extreme to just be lack of coping with the dynamic changes.
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Hi, we showed ours the body of our old girl Twig, (who was 18) so they knew. They were sad but understood. When ur young boy died we were too sad to bring him home, this was a mistake, the others looked for him and pined. Dogs grieve, and they pick up on our emotions.
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When I was growing up we had mother and daughter dogs and the daughter was very reliant on the mother because she was born deaf. The mother got cancer and was taken to the vets to be put to sleep. Once the daughter dog realised she was gone she became visibly distressed and depressed and refused to come out from under the dining table where as before she never enjoyed being inside that much. This led to getting another doggie partner for her much earlier than what we were going to!

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Three years ago my friend's Aussie Cavan lost his elder companion ... he was grief stricken. He would wait by the gait he'd last seen her leave from and actually moped about the house for awhile. He seemed so lost without Sunshine a lovely little mixed breed, that about 3 weeks later they acquired their second Aussie Maggie. That seemed to help everyone's greiving.

Last night we had the painful task of having to say good-by to our beloved 13 plus Aussie Odin. This a.m. I know Cadence was looking for him. She sniffed at all the familiar places in the house he'd been and then stopped and listened for him. They were not real devoted to each other and I have another dog staying with me so maybe she will be okay. She doesn't seem depressed at all just knows something has changed and is quieter. I know she is picking up my body language and senses my sorrow.

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I lost my father about 2 years ago to cancer. When he went into the hospital his dog, Trixie, had to go stay at my sister's house. Trixie was very upset, wouldn't eat, wouldn't drink and seemed really depressed. We would try to bring things home from the hospital that had dad's smell on it and that seemed to cheer her up. When dad passed away, Trixie got worse. It was like she gave up and none of our attempts to help her worked. My sister's dogs would try to comfort Trixie too. One night, about a month after dad was gone, Trixie just layed down, went to sleep and never woke up.

I think she knew dad was gone and as much as we all loved her, she wanted to be with dad.

I know that a lot of people don't believe dogs can mourn like humans but I believe they do. I think Trixie just didn't want to go on without dad.
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Mcknkc, I concur. I lot of people believe dogs only live in the moment, in all honesty I think they have the ability to comprehend a bit more than they are given credit for. Ash's reaction of avoiding laying on the bed where Calypso had spent her last painful night told me volumes ... prior to that, the two had bickered and pushed each other off that doggy bed. When he had the clear opportunity to CLAIM that bed ... he just laid beside the bed looking sad.

In addition, on a lighter note with a more positive experience that tells me they do not live in just the moment: The second day I took Ash to work with me he already had the number of turns it took in the car to get there memorized and knew when to get excited. Once inside the building, he knew where his crate had been placed from the day before, and once let him out of his crate precisely which of the five doors to go to for the play sessions. That was after only *1* day and he had it down pat. Psychology would not be calling a Pavlov conditioning response, it was too fast without repetition.

Dogs are more self aware than they are being given credit for. Calypso showed me that, Ash continues to amaze me, Mya has her moments when she can tell the difference between a trip to the dog park and a trip to hubby's parents place two counties over, even my parents Poms Taliesin and Fizzgig have demonstrated actions that are beyond the limited time spans often attributed to dogs. Keep one thing in mind when considering the questions of psychology in dogs: who is drawing the line that determines it? Humans are, and whether we like to admit it or not, humanity tends to have a rather large portion of egotism. Ponder for a moment what it is deemed as making one 'human' and you can see how far we try to hold ourselves above the other animals. I for one think we share more qualities with our furry friends than our collective egos desire to allow. It's not anthropomorphising them ... it's the reverse actually. Recognizing just how much of us 'came' from them.

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