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Old 03-23-2011, 07:00 PM   #21
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Hi there, I have a 9 month old chihuahua. At first i said " I WOULD NEVER EVER PUT MY DOG IN A CRATE" well this forum changed my mind. I got a crate and im soooo happy. I see big changes in potty train and i know when im gone she would not make any mess or problems in the house. At first she were crying I IGNORE!!! YOU NEED TO IGNORE couse if you take her out after she crys talk to her or him etc.. she will not learn. I also added Treats everytime she goes in. She also have a stainless steal water bowl that is ONLY HALF WAY. She has a conffy blanket and the conffy slip pillow that came with the crate. I cover her at night time so she can know that that her time to Zzzzz. Her bed time is 10pm and she wakes up at 8am. Sometimes when i go out and no one is home to watch her i leave her in the crate aswell. SHE LOVES HER CRATE NOW. Makes them feel safe and call in there own. When i tell her GO IN HER CRATE she runs and knows that its bedtime and of course she gets a treat ) Take it slow. PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE and dont give in. ONLY PRAISE HIM when he is good and quiet.
Do it in steps.

WHat I DID WAS

First take a treat and make her go in the crate and give it to her ( DONT CLOSE DOOR )
I did this a few times. Then i when i made her go in the crate i close the door for 1 sec, 2, 3 etc.. and give a treat from the bars. If she crys DOnt open the crate let her stop then TREAT. I did this a few times and the longer i did the more she was good. I ALSO DID THIS AND IT MADE THE PROBLEM SOLVE FASTER!!!

i would put the crate on my desk near me (if its a big crate ont he floor) and put her in while on the computer, while watching tv, while in the kitchen cooking etc... Put her in a crate for a bit. Do your stuff. GIVE her a bone HER FAV bone but keep it only when she goes in the crate. if you see that she is good PRAISE and TREAT.

Hope these tips help ya. Good luck. YOU CAN DO IT!!

p.s COVER him so he wont see you at night and cry. I have princess in my room near my bed and she always coverd at night.
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Old 03-24-2011, 09:07 AM   #22
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While crateing has it merits it also has it's bad points. It all depends on your individual circumstances! Several people tried where I live tried to get me to crate Nipper but I said no I to tell you truth if I had another dog (after Nipper's gone) I still wouldn't crate. If you bring a puppy up with ground rules from day 1 you should have little or no problems

Nipper had few problems like chewing things but that's what puppies do!
So I stuck with 2 bottoms of door frames and 1 bit of a wall ( paint chewed off) all this was over 12 months ago and they has been no further problems since I think I made the right decisision! So unless it's absolutley necessary I would look at other alternative methods ATB
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If you bring a puppy up with ground rules from day 1 you should have little or no problems
Unless of course you have a very high-energy far too smart for her own good working breed Ground rules are all very well, but when you're not there and that puppy gets bored and looks for something fun to do? I have no doubt Molly would have eaten my house, and annoyed Fudge into a possible fight with no-one there to referee if she wasn't crated

At 18 months she is still crated when were out but no longer at night. If you crate train properly it should be no hardship to the dog and it keeps everyone safe.

I'm interested as to what you think the bad points are?
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:25 PM   #24
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Well with 2 dogs it has it's pluses. I wasn't lucky just put some good ground rules in to it! I mean in the wild dogs aren't crated! It can cause anxiety problems and being hemmed in. Do dogs have phobias too? IMO crates should only be used as temporary measure not for life as some people must do ATB
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Well with 2 dogs it has it's pluses. I wasn't lucky just put some good ground rules in to it! I mean in the wild dogs aren't crated! It can cause anxiety problems and being hemmed in. Do dogs have phobias too? IMO crates should only be used as temporary measure not for life as some people must do ATB
If we were 'in the wild' I wouldn't need to worry about Molly causing damage or eating things she shouldn't. In the wild dogs wouldn't wear leads, or have vets, groomers, microchips, comfy beds. Are we really trying to simulate a 'wild' existence for our dogs? I know I'm not!

I don't think anyone crates dogs just for the sake of it. Fudge has the run of the house because he's earned that. With Molly it's going to take time for her to mature enough. To me it's like using a long line while training a recall.
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If we were 'in the wild' I wouldn't need to worry about Molly causing damage or eating things she shouldn't. In the wild dogs wouldn't wear leads, or have vets, groomers, microchips, comfy beds. Are we really trying to simulate a 'wild' existence for our dogs? I know I'm not!

I don't think anyone crates dogs just for the sake of it. Fudge has the run of the house because he's earned that. With Molly it's going to take time for her to mature enough. To me it's like using a long line while training a recall.
I very much agree with you and think that there are many benefits to having a dog that you are able to crate when needed. My dogs have always used their crates as "their" place to go to when they have wanted a time out from whatever is going on even though they have had other beds available to them. Other factors to consider are that dogs that travel, are hospitalized, are recuperating from surgery, or are on enforced crate rest need to be able handle being crated without the stress of having to acclimate to it for the first time. When Molly matures enough, you will have all the benefits of being able to crate her from the early training and familiarization she has received.
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Hi all! Joe is crated when we aren't in and during the night. He wasn't when we first got him and after a few weeks he began totally destroying the room he was in and going to the toilet whenever he pleased He was suffering from SA. Other than the obvious cost of the damage, we were worried about Joe's health as at the time he had his external fixator on and climbing on the top of glass topped dining room tables wasn't a good thing to do! LOL! So, with the recommendation from the vet and rescue centre we tried crating him. At first he wasn't sure but very soon he loved his 'dog hotel' as I call it, and it's now his safe place.

It's much too big for Joe really but as he spends all day in it as we work, he needed to have plenty of room. Although now, we often lose him to his hotel and he goes in there when he's had enough of us, LOL, or when HE says it's bed-time!

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I've just got a crate for Benson for him to sleep in when we visit relatives. Is it ok to leave him in there overnight? What do I do about his water supply?

So far he doesn't want to go in there. If I coax him in with treats he goes far enough in to reach the treat then comes back out. I could get him in there by force but I'm reluctant to do so in case it makes him resent the crate. Should I try and get him used to sleeping in there for a few nights with the door open or should I just go gung ho and lock him in straight away as the guide suggests?

A great video is Susan Garrett's "crate games" I think the biggest problem people make is coaxing the dog into the the crate and then "trapping" him there. Best to make the crate a fun place to be before even closing the door. Personally, I shape going into a crate and staying with the door open well before I am willing to close the door. I'm a big believer in crate training. Even if your dog is reliable in the home, there may be time when it's necessary (traveling, vet visit, grooming appointment, etc.) These things are stressful enough. I have a dog who has been on 7 weeks of crate confinement and then another 7 weeks for medical reasons. TG it looks like he may be going to be mostly okay. But if it wasn't for the fact that he was well crate trained, he would have surely lost a leg. It now looks like he will keep it (still not a certainty, but . . . )

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A great video is Susan Garrett's "crate games" I think the biggest problem people make is coaxing the dog into the the crate and then "trapping" him there. Best to make the crate a fun place to be before even closing the door. Personally, I shape going into a crate and staying with the door open well before I am willing to close the door. I'm a big believer in crate training. Even if your dog is reliable in the home, there may be time when it's necessary (traveling, vet visit, grooming appointment, etc.) These things are stressful enough. I have a dog who has been on 7 weeks of crate confinement and then another 7 weeks for medical reasons. TG it looks like he may be going to be mostly okay. But if it wasn't for the fact that he was well crate trained, he would have surely lost a leg. It now looks like he will keep it (still not a certainty, but . . . )
I can see your reasoning on this but if a dog is reliable in the home, then crating ( if you really need to) for vet's visits etc should only be done when traveling in the car so training should only be given when these car trips take place. Iam at opposite ends on this one and have never crated and had no serious problems because of not crateing. As per the puppy handbook I was given when I got Nipper. It's a personal choice ATB
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I kennell/crate trained both of my dogs after I was remodeling my house and the only usable room left was the bedroom and it was cramped. During the remodel, my two dogs (sadly only one now) Bella, a 2 yr old BC/lab mix and Rodrigo, BC (at the time he was about 7-8 mo). They were continuously pooping and peeing in the house regardless of how many times I let them out. The kennells taught them a safe place and a place of their own. I placed their kennells right next to each other so they would see each other and not panic. These dogs were always together so distancing their kennells a few feet at first it wasnt an option. I bought the XL crates the dogs were about 60 lbs but I wanted enough room for them to stand, turn around, and stretch out. For their food and water while they were in the the kennell crates, I bought the bowls that attach to the kennell door and they worked perfectly.
To get them into the kennells, I put their beds and blankets and a couple toys so they wouldnt panic and feel more comfortable. I also gave them a bone to get into the kennells and praised them once they were in. It took about a week to get them to go in them alright with no hesitations. I told them to "go to bedtime" and they would run into the kennells. I also kennelled them when they couldnt be outside if it was stormy or cold. They adjusted very well to the kennells and only had accidents, no poop or pee on purpose. The kennells saved my patience and hope that they could be housebroken. They were a lifesaver for me while I had to be at work or school and the dogs couldnt be outside in the yard.
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