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Unread 02-09-2013, 01:21 AM   #1
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I have posted before about my Chihuahua gaining weight. She continues to gain no matter what I do.
Everything I read they say to cut calories. How do you do that when there is no calorie count on the bag?
I had her on the Wellness for weight loss but she didn't loose anything. I was at the store and talked with the sales lady for the Blue Buffalo. She said the weight loss food had more carbs less, fat and protien. I remember reading about Blue on your forum so I thought I would give it a try.
The feeding plan was 1/8 in the morning with her carrots. She loves carrots. Then 1/4 at night with carrots. If she really doesn't seem satisfied I will give her 1/8 more. Her treats are mini carrots. She has about 1/2 stick of happy hips a day and a dingo bone at night. She eats like she is starved. They say if she went without food for some days, she is a rescue, she may always eat that way. She suggested putting a rock in her bowl to slow her down. It does seem to help. I had her on Blue for a week and she gained weight. She is now 12.3lb.
So today I called Blue and talked to some one that said I'm not feeding her enough. She should be having 3/4 cup a day spread out during the day. She also wants me to put her on their food for weight management.
I also have another dog. He doesn't want to eat when she eats. He likes to eat in the evening. So since she eats hers fast she stands as close as he will let her wanting to eat his. She did alot of stealing when I first got her. I know have to stand in the kitchen and wait until she's done and if Buddy doesn't eat pick up his bowl.
I feel like I'm working on her weight every day!
I'm wondering what you think about the new advice I just got and how to find out the calorie intake.
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buddymiller, I have a Chihuahua, Scooter, that wasn't fat... he was plain obese. He will eat anything, and I mean anything. It took me a year and a half to get him down to his proper weight. I went slow... very slow. Caloric intake is different for every dog. Everything he eats, has to be included. So if you give him carrots, treats, food, it all has to be added as his allowable calories for that day. I switched mine from Blue Buffalo kibble to Canidae canned. I only did this because he had to have 4 teeth pulled, and needed to be on a soft diet. I never went back to the kibble. My Collie still eats Blue Buffalo kibble. I have found that higher quality foods, means feeding your dog less. When I switched to Blue Buffalo, all three of my dogs gained weight, and all three had to be put on a diet.
As far as knowing how much to feed, a lot depends on the age of your dog, and of course activity level. Less active, means less food. Everyone in your house has to be on the same page as well. My Husband was always giving my Chi extra table food, treats, whatever. I had to finally tell him that my poor dog was going to die an early death, because of his weight. He could hardly run, and in the summer time, he was panting and having a hard time breathing. I am happy to say, that Scooter's last vet visit in October, was stellar. He is half the dog he used to be, and is finally at his proper weight. He's like a new puppy all over again. Running, playing, and most of all, healthy.
Try not to let that little dog, dancing on her hind legs get to you. Scooter will still dance around my Husband, looking for some kind of hand out. I still give him veggies, left over chicken or steak, but..... I include that into his daily caloric intake, along with his dog food. I make my dogs treats, so there are no high calorie treats in my house. He loves raw carrots, but I cut them up very small, and he doesn't get them every day.
I would make sure you take your little one to the vet. Find out what her proper weight should be, and go from there. Trust me, she will not starve, no matter how much she begs. Remember, she will never "look satisfied."
Just remember that everything you give her has calories. The daily dingo bone, carrots, kibble, the half stick of happy hips.... it all adds up.

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Thank you Deelind7 for your response.
We think Carli to be between 2-3 yrs. She has only been on the Blue Baffalo for almost 2 weeks.
We take a walk every day for at least 30 minutes and if I can longer. I have a disability in my legs so I'm a slow walker. I put both dogs on a retractable leash so they can run ahead and play. She does loves to sleep but so does Buddy. She does play with Buddy. She likes to chase him or have him chase her thru the house.
It's not that she begs for food. It's just at feeding time she always wants more. She wants her carrot everytime she goes out to pee. She can be dead asleep and if I go into the kitchen she comes running. I "normally" don't feed her what I'm eating but if she stays in her bed while I eat then she gets a couple pieces if it is chicken or something she can eat like another carrot.
The vet gives her a clean bill of health but wants her to be closer to 10 lbs. But she didn't tell me how to do it!!
How do I find out the calorie count in the foods I give her? There is nothing on the bags. Is there a way to find out what the calories are in the foods I give her? It's all a guessing game.
Oh it is only me and my husband here and he doesn't feed her either.
I'm happy you found the right mix for Scotter. What does he weigh now? How much did he loose?
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Hi again,

Don't know why I didn't think of this before. I found calorie counts for the food and treats online! Now maybe I can really know what I'm doing!

The Blue has 463 Cup
the weight control is still 444. Don't get that unless it is the fat.
The Wellness healthy weight is only 325 cup.

The dingo bones are 34
the stick of Happy Hips are 37 (she gets 1/4)
30z of carrots are 34

Now I can buy her a pet pet ometer and see how many calories she is burning! kidding.

Hope this helps others wondering the same thing!
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So, how much do you want her to weigh? I can tell you how much you need to be feeding. Be aware that she may have a thyroid condition causing her weight gain. You need to rule out medical conditions before you can be sure diet is her only problem.
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The vet said she would like to see her close to 10 lbs. If I could get her there we could see if it is a good weight. I also want to rule out I'm not the reason she is gaining. If nothing works I will look into a health reason.
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buddymiller, vagreys is the best! Scooter was tested, and it was nothing more than over feeding him. I swear, he could down an entire slice of pizza in a minute flat. The biggest problem was, never having a small dog before. We have always had Collies, so when my Husband gave a handout of table food, or snacks, everyone got the same amount, including Scooter. Well, an 80 pound dog vs. a 10 pound dog is a really big difference. Scooter was over 20 pounds, when I put him on a strick diet. He is now down to 11. So he is really half the dog he used to be. It's very easy to over feed a small dog. Getting my Husband to understand was half the battle. It was hard for him to resist Scooter dancing around on his hind legs, begging for food. I'll try and find a before and after picture. He doesn't look like the same dog.

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Please do that Dee! I would be interested too
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Yes it would be great to see your pictures! I had a golden retriever and he ate any thing including people food. I so much better now but it must not be enough! Do you know how many calories scooter eats a day?
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Vagreys, Thank you for looking into this. I'm looking everything on line to see how many calories in everything she may eat during the day. So when we change it up some I'm still counting calories.
We went to lunch today and we order a chicken breast for the dogs to share. I measured her out to be no more than a 1/4 cup. That was instead of one of her meals.
I did up her intake a little and she does seem more satisfied and she seems a lot more active.
I can't wait until I hear what you think her calories should be. I've read a lot of your post and you know what you are talking about.
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