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Old 03-04-2011, 07:10 PM   #1
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Review. My dad feed my lab/chow O'Roy from walmart. Once I got her, I wanted to give her good dog food. After talking to just about everyone who worked at Petco, I decided on using Natural Balance (the one from the movie star guy).
After a while, I can see a person in my financial situation, can't keep buying $50 dog food every month and a little.

I asked my friend for some ideas. She said she feed hers the same, but had to switch just like me. She switched to Netro. It wasn't "the very best" but is pretty good, and costs less ($37 for a large bag vs $49.99 for the NB).

I also did some research on Costco brand. (not the best, but not bad, about "middle of the road).

I went into Petco to maybe get Netro. Not sure what I'm looking for, but reading the label, it doesn't seems like it's even a premium dog food. Like I said, not even sure what I'm looking for, for sure.

Reading the label of Natural Balance, you can see it's very impressive. Going through the ingredients, you get the feeling that its good.

Maybe I'm used to Natural Balance, but when I read the label of Netro, it just doesn't seem very good. I don't come away with, 'wow, this looks pretty good.'

I was on my way to costco to get their brand and turned around. Just couldn't get myself to buy it. It reminds me of grocery store food. Not what's on the label, just ever place in my town sells grocery store stuff except Petco.

Now I'm lost of what to switch to. So many choices, I get lost.

You can pay the highest price and get the very best. If this makes sense, I'm looking for the best dog food for the price. One that's real good, but is not as expensive as the top, top brand.

I know you get what you pay for, but I think some may know what I'm asking. At Petco, what is the best bang for the buck?

Another question would be, how does Netro compare to costco brand?

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You may also want to check out your area feed stores. Sometimes they have a much better selection than the big boxes - and at a better price.

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You may also want to check out your area feed stores. Sometimes they have a much better selection than the big boxes - and at a better price.
Thank you, I never thought of that. I have one just down the street, and another one a little farther.

I have a feeling I may find the same problem. Lots of choices but to confusing.

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The little locally owned feed store I go to can discuss the various foods, and offer good suggestions (also samples)

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I'm leaving now to go there.
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...I decided on using Natural Balance (the one from the movie star guy). After a while, I can see a person in my financial situation, can't keep buying $50 dog food every month and a little...I also did some research on Costco brand. (not the best, but not bad, about "middle of the road)...I went into Petco to maybe get Netro. Not sure what I'm looking for, but reading the label, it doesn't seems like it's even a premium dog food. Like I said, not even sure what I'm looking for, for sure...Maybe I'm used to Natural Balance, but when I read the label of Netro, it just doesn't seem very good. I don't come away with, 'wow, this looks pretty good.'...I was on my way to costco to get their brand and turned around. Just couldn't get myself to buy it. It reminds me of grocery store food. Not what's on the label, just ever place in my town sells grocery store stuff except Petco...You can pay the highest price and get the very best. If this makes sense, I'm looking for the best dog food for the price. One that's real good, but is not as expensive as the top, top brand...At Petco, what is the best bang for the buck?...Another question would be, how does Netro compare to c ostco brand?
Sounds like you've got the right goal. Unfortunately, no one food is best for every dog. Let's look at the foods you are considering, though, and see how they compare. Nutro has three lines: Nutro Max (lowest price and quality), Nutro Natural Choice (intermediate quality and priced the same as the second tier Natural Balance foods), and Nutro Ultra (priced the same as the Natural Balance Alpha formulas).

Scoring the quality of ingredients we find:
  • Natural Balance Original Ultra ($44.99 for 33 lbs) V-score: 105
  • Kirkland Chicken, Rice and Vegetable ($28 for 40 lbs) V-score: 94
  • Nutro Ultra Holistic Adult Dog Food ($54 for 30 lbs) V-score: 79
  • Nutro Natural Choice Chicken, Rice & Oatmeal ($45 for 35 lbs) V-score: 78
  • Nutro MAX Lamb Meal and Rice ($37 for 35 lbs) V-score: 69
Of the foods you've identified, the Kirkland Signature Super-Premium Chicken, Rice & Vegetable appears to be the best value for the money. The Kirkland Lamb, Rice & Vegetable scores similarly, if your dog does not tolerate chicken, well. The Kirkland is significantly better than the best Nutro formula, due to the quality of ingredients. See for yourself, below, and look in my grading system for information about the ingredients.

Natural Balance Original Ultra ($44.99 for 33 lbs)
Chicken, Brown Rice, Lamb Meal, Oatmeal, Barley, Salmon Meal, Potatoes, Carrots, Chicken Fat (preserved with natural mixed tocopherols), Tomato Pomace, Natural Flavor, Canola Oil, Brewers Yeast, Duck, Sodium Chloride, Potassium Chloride, Salmon Oil, Whole Ground Flaxseed, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Natural Mixed Tocopherols, Spinach, Parsley Flakes, Cranberries, L-Lysine, L-Carnitine, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Dried Kelp, Vitamin E Supplement, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Potassium Iodide, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B-1), Manganese Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Niacin, Calcium Pantothenate, Manganese Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B-6), Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2), Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Folic Acid.

Nutro MAX Lamb Meal and Rice ($37 for 35 lbs)
Lamb Meal, Ground Rice, Wheat Flour, Corn Gluten Meal, Rice Bran, Ground Whole Wheat, Poultry Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Oatmeal, Natural Flavors, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Salt, Zinc Sulfate, Taurine, Vitamin E Supplement, Ferrous Sulfate, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of Vitamin C), Potassium Iodide, L-Carnitine, Copper Sulfate, Niacin Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Manganous Oxide, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Vitamin A Supplement, Sodium Selenite, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6), Riboflavin Supplement (source of Vitamin B2), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Folic Acid.

Nutro Natural Choice Chicken, Rice & Oatmeal ($45 for 35 lbs)
Chicken Meal, Ground Rice, Rice Flour, Rice Bran, Whole Brown Rice, Chicken, Poultry Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Oatmeal, Pea Protein, Natural Flavors, Dried Plain Beet Pulp, Soybean Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Sunflower Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Potassium Chloride, Sodium Bicarbonate, L-Lysine, Salt, Choline Chloride, Egg Product, Dried Kelp, Taurine, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of Vitamin C), Copper Proteinate, Biotin, Niacin Supplement, Potassium Iodide, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement (source of Vitamin B2), Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6), Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement.

Nutro Ultra Holistic Adult Dog Food ($54 for 30 lbs)
Chicken meal, whole brown rice, ground rice, rice bran, chicken, lamb meal, salmon meal, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols a source of vitamin E), natural flavors, flaxseed, oatmeal, dehydrated alfalfa meal, dried plain beet pulp, soybean oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols a source of vitamin E), sunflower oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols a source of vitamin E), fish oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols a source a vitamin E), potassium chloride, egg product, tomato pomace, dried pomegranate, dried blueberry, dried avocado, dried cranberry, dried pumpkin, dried spinach, dried carrot, salt, choline chloride, taurine, vitamin E supplement, zinc sulfate, zinc proteinate, ferrous sulfate, l-carnitine, l-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), biotin, copper proteinate, niacin supplement, potassium iodide, calcium pantothenate, vitamin A supplement, vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin supplement (source of vitamin B2), thiamine mononitrate (source of vitamin B1), sodium selenite, beta carotene, manganese proteinate, manganese oxide, pyrodoxine hydrochloride ( source of vitamin B6), menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity), folic acid, vitamin D3 supplement.

Kirkland Signature Chicken, Rice and Vegetable ($28 for 40 lbs)
Chicken, chicken meal, whole grain brown rice, cracked pearled barley, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and vitamin E), egg product, dried beet pulp, potatoes, fish meal, flaxseed, natural flavor, brewers dried yeast, millet, potassium chloride, salt, choline chloride, carrots, peas, kelp, apples, dried skim milk, cranberry powder, rosemary extract, parsley flake, dried chicory root, glucosamine hydrochloride, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, chondroitin sulfate, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, niacin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid.
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I would look into Diamond Naturals kibble in your area. It is really high powered food (all varieties score over 100 in Vagreys system), and costs around $1.00 per pound. You may have to look for it in the smaller pet stores.
Another choice is PetSmart's house brand, Authority. I scored the Chicken and Rice formula at a 99 in the kibble scoring thread. I believe it is $30 for a 34# bag.
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As I recall, Diamond makes the Kirkland branded food for Costco. Very affordable for the quality.
Says the man paying $62 a bag for his dogs

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At the feed store, they have Natural Balance for $54.99. Everything was higher price.

The girl told me the reason why some don't like Nutro is because it's made by the same company as the Costco Brand. Since some don't think costco is very good, they don't like nutro. (doens't sound right).

They did have a brand, now I can't remember what the name was. I think something like "Intense," or something like that. It was about $40 for a 33lbs bag.

Looks like the Costco brand is OK. I may get that one. The replies are very helpful for me, thank you very much.

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I would look into Diamond Naturals kibble in your area. It is really high powered food (all varieties score over 100 in Vagreys system), and costs around $1.00 per pound.
Big R here sells Diamond for $27.99 for a 40lb bag!
The food at the other store was called Exclusive, not Intense.

If dimond makes the Kirkland, and it sells for $25, it would be better to get the Kirkland? The place that has the Diamond also sells Loyal Brand. From $31 - $34. He said when it gets hot, the Loyal Brand is the only one that can't be put outside. It will turn into soup. He said something like it breaks down easy, so it digests better.

Maybe the Kirkland Brand is made by the same people, but it's not the exact same? Not knowing what to look for I wasn't very impressed with the Diamond. I thought the Meal, or by pooducts the first on the list was not fit for humans. He even said that when I showed him. He said yes, its the bone and all.

I may get the Dimond or the Kirkland.

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