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Unread 10-05-2009, 05:26 PM   #1
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Just wondering if anyone has any opinions on the trader joes canned and dry dog food? I didnt have a chance to look at the ingredients of the dry food. I was able to look at the canned ingredients. They dont seem too bad - although not as good as the evengers canned food since that basically consists of whatever meat and water. The trader joes canned food seems to basically be meat and then some other items, some of which i recognize and some i dont.

Price-wise it's a much better deal then what i get now. Just wondering if it's a decent brand of food.

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TJ's canned food is manufactured under contract with Menu Foods. I can find no information on-line about Trader Joe's Brand dog food. There is speculation that it is made for TJ's by Bench & Field, but that is a brand they carry, and not necessarily the manufacturer of their house brand (although it could be).

If you want an assessment of the food, it would be helpful if you could provide the actual ingredient list for the Trader Joe's Dog Food. I'm not assuming that it is the Bench & Field product.
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Sorry, not at home right now and that's where the can is

When i get home i'll post a pic of the label.

Would be really nice if their food turned out to be ok, consider the canned food costs about half and the dry about half as well i think. i think it was $20 for a bag although i dont remember how much was in the bag. I typically pay close to $60 for a large bag of solid gold dry.

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The cost of a dog food is the cost per serving. A food can appear to be less expensive, but turn out to be more expensive on a cost-per-serving basis, or appear to be more expensive and turn out to be less expensive on a cost-per-serving basis.

If you'd like, I have a calculator built that I can use to compare wet and dry foods on a dry matter basis, if that would help. Although Menu Foods was involved in the melamine recalls, the foods they make for each company are specific to that company's formula. Some Menu Foods products were not recalled, because they didn't contain the recalled ingredient.

So, if you can get the label information, ingredients and guaranteed analysis, for the wet and dry foods, we can take a look at them.
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Ok, i can definitely give you the canned ingredients - image of the label ok or do you need me to type it in?

Dry food will have to wait a day or two. Next time i'm at TJ's i'll snap a pic of the label.

And when i say it was cheaper, i was strictly going by the weight of the food. Their canned food had almost double the weight of the evengers canned food for about the same price. The dry food i didn't get a chance to catch the weight but it had to be at least 20-30lbs judging from the size of the bag. And that was $20, compared to almost $60 for a 40lbs bag of solid good.

I'll post up the info for the canned food when i get home later tonight.

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Ok, i can definitely give you the canned ingredients - image of the label ok or do you need me to type it in?...
As long as the ingredient list and analysis are readable, it doesn't matter.
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Ok, here you go. If these aren't read-able let me know and I'll upload a higher quality version and link it.

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OK, first we remove the moisture, and see what the solid food analysis shows. The moisture content is approximately the same as fresh meat. The moisture in the food is removed during digestion, and the solid matter is the real nutrition. To compare a canned food to a dry food, you have to remove the moisture from both. Canned food contains about 78% moisture, and dry foods contain about 10-12% moisture. Remove the moisture from both, and then you are comparing apples to apples. We call this the dry matter basis for comparison.

On a dry matter basis, this canned food contains:
Crude Protein - 31.8% min.
Crude Fat - 18.2% min.
Crude Fiber - 6.8% max.
Crude Carbohydrate - 43.2% min.

This profile is very similar to what we would call a "performance" formula in dry kibble - a 30/20 blend of protein and fat.

In terms of Calories (kcal), this food has about 92 kcal/100g, or 0.92 kcal/g, or about 26.3 kcal/oz. So a hypothetical 13-ounce can would contain about 342 kcal. An average 50-lb adult dog would need 3 1/3 such cans per day to maintain weight.

Ingredients: lamb broth, lamb, chicken, textured soy protein product, parboiled rice, potatoes, peas, carrots, sodium tri-polyphosphate, calcium carbonate, potassium chloride, carageenan, cassia gum, guar gum, choline chloride, vitamins, [mid-grade] minerals.

The main ingredients are lamb broth, lamb, chicken, textured soy protein product, parboiled rice and potatoes. Soy is one of the top 10 food allergens in dog food, but if your dog isn't allergic to soy, then the soy protein in this food shouldn't be a problem. The food would be better if it weren't relying on vegetable protein. All in all, a good canned food. There are better canned foods out there, and there are much worse.
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thanks a lot for going over that for me.

I'm not too concerned so much about how much nutrition she is getting from the canned food. It's mainly just t make the dry food more appealing to her. So i'm mainly just concerned that it doesn't contain anything bad. Sounds like this can doesn't, other then possibly the soy. I'll have to check the other food i feed her if it has any soy in it.

I'm going to hold off on feeding it to her though for now. Just found out recently that she has EPI and i'm not going to start changing up her food just now.

Thanks again for the explanation. it's appreciated.

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