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Old 01-31-2009, 09:59 AM   #21
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I am not a great fan of it personally Janie,tbh. I do know however, that many owners swear by it and feel that it is very good for thier dogs' health.

When it comes down to it, you have to make the right decision for you and your dogs, so take all the good advice you are getting, read all the pros and cons and then go with what your head tells you to do.

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Old 01-31-2009, 10:42 AM   #22
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Im a terror for reading and reading and getting all info I need before I do anything I can at times be tediously boreing having to know every little bit of info and then sometimes I just jump straight in to things but will get all my facts before I start as I want to get things right for them

Its just the way the dry kibble swells I dont like. Molly was really Ill a while back, she got in to the food bag the door is normally closed but I must have not put it on the latch properly, she came in to the kitchen heaving breathless virtually collapseing I had no idea what was wrong I looked at her stomach and it looked like shed stuffed a pillow in to her she was so swollen I panicked and went to the food room and yep shed been in the bag and eaten till she couldnt any more, we rushed her to the vet who put team of surgeons on call thought we were dealing with bloat but thankfully she was able to sort herself out without the need for surgery we starved her for 36hrs and kept her off dry food for 1 week to allow any left in her to digest fully it was then I experimented and put the amount i give them in 1 meal in to a jug with warm water it swelled to possibly 3 or 4 times its size it cant be good for a dogs digestion to have to deal with this every day and you may say just feed wet well I cant find a wet food that suits them where I can give the amounts they need, the wet food we have plumped for is a good one but A) doesnt fill them up and B) give too much and they have loose poos. So I do worry about giving kibble more so since poor molly suffered this

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Old 01-31-2009, 11:15 AM   #23
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Also JAnie feeding wet isn't good for their oral hygiene, as well as being very expensive.

If your own feelings about doing it are good, then give it a try. If it doesn't work out at least you have tried

I know waht you mean about reading stuff - I do it too. sometimes the more you read, the more confusing it becomes

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Ok , this thread has convinced me to put the hammer down and get this into motion .

Cost was a consideration for me , but from the looks of it I can probably save money . I am going to check out some of the references throughout this thread and figure out sourcing as well as meal planning . I'm spending about 150usd to feed mine per month now , and that's not counting treats . Man I buy some treats too !!-lol

I will still have a diet plan I'm sure my CDO makes me like that . I'll want a good rotation , I'll want to know what nutrients a certain meal provides and what it doesn't then cover those missed bases in a future meal . sweeeeettt

How special will it be preparing dinner instead of just stirring it up in a bowl - haha a
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:14 PM   #25
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Necknot, you go for it girl ! There is no harm in the planning, the checking of nutrients etc., but once you have got into it, it will all become second nature. Just think wolf ... what does a wild wolf eat in the wild, and then aim to perfect that. A wolf sometimes will go as long as a couple of weeks without a substantial meal, we aim to do a bit better than that for our pets, but just think to yourself "Would a wolf eat this", and you won't go far wrong.

It does actually become quite fun preparing the dog's bowl each evening. Tai has had a dreadful gut bug for the last couple of weeks, so it has been a bland diet of cooked chicken every single night, with live yoghourt and the occasional egg. Tonights the big one ... we are aiming to go completely raw ! He is going to have some raw beef mince with veg from Landywoods, mixed with his probiotics and some cod liver oil and a little pureed raw veg. Fingers crossed all will be OK!

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Hmmmmmmmm Im a little green around the gills here just having had my cheese and tomatoes on toast hee hee and reading about turkey necks and chicken gizzards lol but am really interested have got OH looking for freezers as we speak

Dave just told me the 15kg probably only lasts around 6 weeks at 45 not cheap and with the wet food a day aswell it works out quite pricey you dont really think about it plus I throw in the odd tin of sardines and boiled eggs

Now NO BOWLS lol where do you feed them Im really being thick here now obviously bones cant be in a bowl so would you need to feed them outside as here in Devon it rains so much we have no carpets so cleaning is easy but I suppose you could only feed bones and carcasses on a dry day you can see Im a complete novice and total beginer here. Dave was laughing at my face when I was reading your posts on what you feed your dogs I was starting to hyperventilate and sweat hee hee , Daves a full on meat eater so I do cook meat its just the thought of it being raw lol. Dave is really all for this hes always wanted to do it its been me holding off so when I said last night to him I was really giving it serious thoughts after reading what you guys had to say on it hes not letting things lie, never seen him act so fast, hes not so fast when I ask him if he could wash the floors

We have some great local farmers who could supply us with all our needs for some things but will give landywoods serious consideration

Thanks guys for the info and address for Landywoods looks like we will be throwing out the death biscuits very soon lol . Do you need to gradually swap them over.

Will be picking your brains a few times hope this will be ok and will keep you posted on the change over

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Tai has his bones and chicken wings in our conservatory, which has a tiled floor. In the summer he is out in the garden of course, but at the moment our garden is a sea of mud, so the conservatory it is. We have no carpets at all in our house, except on the stairs, so he could eat his bits of dead animal anywhere really, but we always make him go in the porch or the conservatory as a matter of routine.

Local farmers are a fab source of meaty bones ... we use Landywoods only for the muscle meat, turkey necks and chicken wings. The RMBs I source from this wonderful butcher in Broughton I have already mentioned, along with the goat and the chicken gizzards (hee hee Janie - you're gonna have to get used to it girl !!!). If you are lucky enough to be able to get every thing from a local farmer, that is great, but we find that Landywoods, mixed with the Broughton Butcher (!!) is the best and cheapest option. Our chest freezer isn't big enough to accommodate 60 worth of meat and bones (Landywoods' minimum order), although with your pack, your freezer will need to be bigger, so therefore 60 won't be such a problem.

I am so excited for your dogs Janie ... and Necknot ... they are going to be so happy.. raw is absolutely the best way to feed your dogs, and the most economical as well. Top quality kibble is SO expensive, and the vet bills on top, it is way cheaper to feed raw. I am looking forward to hearing how you are getting on !!

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Old 01-31-2009, 05:31 PM   #27
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Bugle would a tall freezer with deep drawers be ok we are a bit stuck for the room length ways but upwards we are ok

Im getting quite excited about this too although may be a little queezy I gave them wet food tonight and it was sticky thick and looked horrible felt very heavy in thier bowls the consistency is never the same and Jasper went outside and started to eat grass. This is a wet food that is far better than most but still has derivitives and the dry food has beet pulp and looks so unappetiseing I sometimes wonder why they eat it it must taste nice I suppose

We can let them have thier bones in the kitchen or hall way like you we have no carpets at all in the house I am now going to invest in a floor steamer, there is only so much a veggie can bear and old bone grease isnt one of them lol lol

Necknot glad to hear someone else is thinking about the switch we can go through it together compare notes swap advice that we get other than that on here it will give us both confidence to get this done for our dogs, good luck

Bugle we will do as you do I think get things from Landywoods and the local farmers. Now Im sure I will need you guys to tell me its all ok when I get nervous of the turkey necks and throw up at the thought of oxtail, liver and kidneys lol lol But Im going to take a grip of myself and stand firm for my little friends who need proper food not this stuff that swells inside them or wet stuff that you just really dont know whats in it

Watch this space 6 doggies with me and Necknot are about to have the best meals of thier lives woooppieee :appl aud:

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Well done Janie !! I am absolutely impressed by your grit and determination. I agree with you totally about the processed food you describe, it looks exactly like what comes out the other end ... horrible great dollops of pap, instead of nice, small, odourless, well formed poos !

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nice, small, odourless, well formed poos !
It must be a miracle that this is what comes out the other end of my two

Seriously though, I'm 100% happy with how I feed my dogs and their health, but if raw food works for you and your dogs then more power to you.
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Old 02-01-2009, 07:23 AM   #30
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Janie : sorry, I forgot to say about the freezer. That would be fine, it doesn't matter what type - it's just that a chest freezer will take more because there are no drawers to take up extra space. But if you need to go upwards, then upwards it is !

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