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Unread 06-14-2008, 09:39 AM   #1
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Hi All, I was wondering how many of you give your dogs the roasted bones? You know the ones that come shrink wrapped in plastic. I just bought one each for my dogs. I put it in their cages for when we go out.

Are they good to give to dogs?
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I have and to be honest I'm not thrilled with them. At least around here they seem to have some kind of reddish coloring that makes a mess, something that flakes off and leave a mess, plus they are more expensive than if you buy the same bone raw at the meat department of the grocery store.
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Aren't the marrow bones dangerous? I heard of dogs jaws getting stuck in the hole.
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No No, I give mine once a week a treat of RAW soup beef bone, they lick and dig hard for the marrow. I have not yet ever encountered anything happening to my dogs. I feel it is safer than anyother I can find.

I have not noticed those baked ones as I never look at things like that might take notice of them if I get to a store. lol. It is raining here, hot and mucky, just plain sleeping lazy weather. Thanks for sharing Pauline.
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Honestly I think raw marrow bones are one of the best things you can give your dog. There is nothing that beats the taste, it's all natural (not like Nylabone or Greenies) it keeps dogs occupied for hours. And when they have licked out all the marrow you can use them to stuff something else into, like peanut butter. I mix up yogurt and peanut butter, put it in the empty bones and freeze it. Out it comes for a summer treat on a hot day.
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Thanks Gals, I used to give my dogs raw bones until the diarrhea problem. I would love for them to be able to have them. I think I will try again.
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Pauline - You do have to be careful about bones. We give Meg raw stewing beef bones occasionally as a treat. She still enjoys them even after only the bone is left, but she got it stuck on her lower jaw over her bottom canines. It was nearly impossible to remove and we almost had to take her to the vet. I would just be careful that the gap is not big enough for the collie's slender muzzles to get caught in!
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NEVER give a dog cooked bones! And the worst ones of all are the ones you buy from pet shops etc. as they are contaminated with huge quantities of bacteria often, and contain various unnatural material such as preservatives - otherwise they would not be kept in a box in the shop, but in a refrigerator. They are a lethal concoction of bacteria and chemicals, and IMO should be avoided like the plague !

A good raw meaty bone - especially marrow bones - are the best things ever that you can give your dog. Every dog should be fed raw bones IMO, irrespective of whether they are fed raw or commercial dog food. They are essential for strong, clean, healthy teeth and for building up vital musculature in the neck, shoulders and jaws. The powerful tearing action that dogs use to get the meat, fat and sinew off of a bone, and then actually crunching on the bone gives dogs a good physical work out. They are designed and intended to eat bones, and it beats me why so many people think they are dangerous!

If raw bones have caused a dog to have diarrhoea, it is possibly because this natural food is alien to the dog because its normal diet is commercial dog food. My advice to anybody is always to convert their dog to raw feeding, because this is best, but if this is not possible for whatever reason, then stick with the bones - the dog will eventually get used to the higher levels of bacteria causing them to have diarrhoea. You could also try raw chicken wings and raw turkey neck. Being bird bone, they are much less dense and are a good option to start off with.

But never feed cooked bone, especially commercially bought ones !

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I have gone back and forth on the idea of giving my dog raw bones and have pretty much decided against it as I did have a previous dog do some serious dental damage with a raw bone. I give my dog the cleaned hollow bone and stuff it with chicken, beef, or peanut butter. Sometimes I can even get her to take medication this way by embedding it in the filling. The only downside is that when she wants it, she has learned to bring it to my attention by whacking me on the knee with it.
Just one of the articles I read while researching my decision:
What Is The Bone Composition and Nutritional Value of Feeding Raw Bones To Dogs?
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Thanks for posting the link to such a fascinating article JGLI. I have only read it briefly, but have printed it off for deeper study in bed tonight. My own personal view of bones is that they are essential for teeth cleaning (removing plaque), and for ensuring strong and healthy neck and chest muscles due to the tearing action involved in their consumption. Again my own personal view is that the actual bone itself provides only calcium and one or two other minerals, and in insufficient quantity to be the only source for these minerals. In addition, it is unlikely that most dogs will be able to grind up bones sufficiently to be able to extract such minerals in any case. I subscribe to the view that the bones must be raw and meaty - the meaty bits, fat and sinews gnawed off the bones is where our dogs should be obtaining much of the protein, fats etc. that are vital to their health. On a raw diet, RMB's should form around 80% of the dogs dietary needs. In addition, a small amount of raw meat is fed in the form of offal or muscle meat, along with a little raw pureed veg.

Dogs are direct descendants of wolves, and in my mind the best diet is therefore the natural wolf diet, not processed dog food such as kibble or canned meat. Hundreds of thousands of years of evolution cannot be wrong, otherwise there would be no wolf and no dog. What a sad life without them that would be. I converted my old boy around 6 years ago to the BARF diet, and now his successor too. I will never revert back to a non-raw diet, especially raw meaty bones. I too had an old collie who suffered serious dental damage due to a bone, which went undetected for several years until we adopted him and discovered he had a tooth abcess. But the small chance of a dog getting a bone stuck, or dental damage, is far, far outweighed by the benefits of eating a natural diet in my opinion. If worried, a check can be made of your dog's teeth at regular intervals by the owner or the vet.

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